Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.044 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.91; '*S*': 0.00; 'motivated': 0.05; 'subject:text': 0.05; 'contributor': 0.07; 'editor.': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:editor': 0.09; 'url:software': 0.09; '\xe2\x80\x94': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'finney': 0.16; 'helps.': 0.16; 'merely': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'strong,': 0.16; 'survive': 0.16; 'url:gnu': 0.16; 'essential': 0.16; 'community,': 0.19; 'properly': 0.19; 'machine': 0.22; 'platforms': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'installation': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'switch': 0.26; 'supported': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'record': 0.27; 'related': 0.29; 'programming.': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'url:wiki': 0.31; 'along.': 0.31; 'party.': 0.31; 'url:wikipedia': 0.31; 'vibrant': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'this.': 0.32; 'languages': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'text': 0.33; 'community': 0.33; 'style': 0.33; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'tool': 0.35; 'editor': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'add': 0.35; 'licensed': 0.36; 'maintained': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'operating': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'thank': 0.38; 'ben': 0.38; 'tasks': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'track': 0.38; 'supporting': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'system.': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'major': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'failures': 0.60; 'improved': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'hope': 0.61; 'free': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; 'simple': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'you.': 0.62; 'save': 0.62; 'such': 0.63; 'different': 0.65; 'investment': 0.66; 'benefit': 0.68; 'tasks.': 0.68; 'trends': 0.69; 'url:%1': 0.72; 'obvious': 0.74; 'yourself': 0.78; 'abandon': 0.84; 'decades,': 0.84; 'hunting!': 0.84; 'indefinitely': 0.84; 'locked': 0.84; 'mature': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; '\xe2\x80\x9cwe': 0.84; 'inefficient': 0.91; 'outcome': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Programmer's text editor (was: Saving) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 15:29:05 +1000 References: <53b9d5c1.037a320a.5521.ffffa6bb@mx.google.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:meoEU0y7uOKsNOvJa0BpQEwxbBI= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 66 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1404710960 news.xs4all.nl 2948 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42733 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:74076 writes: > I need to know how to save my code and save as programs because I > write code and I run it but then I cant save it for later. You can write Python code using any text editor. You will do well to use a text editor which is deliberately designed for programming and other related editing tasks. I would also recommend that a programmer's text editor should: * Be licensed as free software — the tool should be able to be improved and maintained and distributed to you by any party sufficiently motivated, not locked up by any single party. * Work the same on all major platforms — you should not need to abandon a tool you like merely because you switch to a different machine for a while. * Be mature with a strong track record — a text editor which has been around for some decades, and still has a large following, has demonstrated it can survive many different trends in programming tools. * Well-supported with its own vibrant community — you don't necessarily need to join such a community, but you will greatly benefit from the fact that a tool has robust community support. That the tool is free software is a significant contributor to this. * Be indefinitely customisable to meet new needs — this ensures that anyone sufficiently motivated can allow you to use the tool you already know for new tasks that come along. Having a strong community of support will mean that most tasks are already supported in the tool by people who came before you. * Properly support many programming languages and related formats — this is an outcome of the tool being community-supported, mature, and highly customisable. The tool should, in its standard installation, already support major programming languages and formats, and have a simple way to add supporting plug-ins as you need them. I know of two obvious text editors that meet these criteria: * Vim * Emacs If you're using a *nix style operating system such as GNU+Linux, you will have both of these available for installation from the operating system. > Please help and thank you for your time. I hope that helps. Familiarising yourself with a strong, free-software, cross-platform text editor is an essential investment in programming. Good hunting! -- \ “We have clumsy, sputtering, inefficient brains…. It is a | `\ *struggle* to be rational and objective, and failures are not | _o__) evidence for an alternative reality.” —Paul Z. Myers, 2010-10-14 | Ben Finney