Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'conventions': 0.07; 'high-profile': 0.09; 'received:internal': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'language?': 0.16; 'message-id:@webmail.messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'naming': 0.16; 'neutral': 0.16; 'received:10.202': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2': 0.16; 'received:66.111': 0.16; 'received:66.111.4': 0.16; 'received:messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; "python's": 0.19; 'sorry,': 0.24; 'subject:community': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; "i'm": 0.30; 'community': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'received:66': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'are,': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'received:10': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'from:no real name:2**0': 0.61; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.63; 'term': 0.63; 'kind': 0.63; 'social': 0.69; 'offended': 0.84; '2013,': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=A0V/4GiopVWiOsUpioR4TuhB+kU=; b=unj Rr3lslRCygB3Li1EhnbI6n2mnGjjvxFPgqFhVZo8COI/xUzLUJ25C2JNcMwQdCbl r2kR7Pg+y3Y42VZT8JFb7yO573FVStdX3X90kYdyFUhD0bAA2UgX6KM+vIJa07IR ZOPf7X70ifbH2BNkmJUetPUDVDv51828tMSZqs4U= X-Sasl-Enc: soqhorgYy0u0weOZ8wPbJB3hgBY3wkRdB6oO64XsQT1T 1382005827 From: marduk@python.net To: python-list@python.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-ce174988 In-Reply-To: <2013101623133337485-owenjacobson@grimoireca> References: <2013101623133337485-owenjacobson@grimoireca> Subject: Re: Sexism in the Ruby community: how does the Python community manage it? Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 06:30:27 -0400 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1382005830 news.xs4all.nl 15902 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:41021 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:56950 On Wed, Oct 16, 2013, at 11:13 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: [...] > 2. What kind of social pressure can we bring to bear to _keep_ Python's > package naming conventions as socially neutral as they are, if and when > some high-profile dirtbag decides this language is the best language? > How can we apply the same pressures to other parts of the Python > community? I'm sorry, but as a member of the hygenically-challenged community I am greatly offended by the term "dirtbag". -a