Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Terry Reedy Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 05:09:09 -0400 Lines: 52 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de kEiHhYO9UV6kEU4H1opCIQelFf8JaxTBOvYMsdZKcSuA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'subject:text': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'indicated': 0.07; 'subject:editor': 0.07; 'compiler.': 0.09; 'cursor': 0.09; 'debugger': 0.09; 'grep': 0.09; 'lookup': 0.09; 'macros': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'runtime': 0.09; 'variables,': 0.09; 'jan': 0.11; 'syntax': 0.13; '(svn,': 0.16; 'compile,': 0.16; 'describing': 0.16; 'formatting,': 0.16; 'framework,': 0.16; 'hits.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:Mac': 0.16; 'subject:programming': 0.16; 'traceback.': 0.16; 'troll': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; "wouldn't": 0.16; 'why.': 0.18; 'runs': 0.18; 'variable': 0.18; 'windows': 0.20; 'arguments': 0.22; 'keywords,': 0.22; 'noted': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'matching': 0.23; 'specified': 0.23; '(this': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.26; '(e.g.': 0.27; 'checking': 0.27; 'expansion': 0.27; 'moved': 0.27; 'function': 0.28; 'regular': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.30; 'etc.)': 0.32; 'run': 0.33; 'michael': 0.33; 'idle': 0.33; 'jump': 0.33; 'traceback': 0.33; 'editor': 0.34; 'file': 0.34; 'add': 0.34; 'behind': 0.35; 'text': 0.35; 'important.': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'really': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'things': 0.38; 'integration': 0.38; 'someone': 0.38; 'why': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'received:96': 0.63; 'spot': 0.63; '500': 0.63; 'management': 0.64; 'python- list': 0.66; 'below.': 0.66; 'useful.': 0.72; 'integrated': 0.72; 'special': 0.73; 'attention': 0.76; 'article': 0.77; 'beats': 0.84; 'best?': 0.84; 'editors:': 0.84; 'succeeds': 0.84; 'tree,': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.91; 'email name:support': 0.96 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-96-227-207-81.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:110093 On 6/18/2016 3:04 AM, Michael Vilain via Python-list wrote: > In article , > support@ecourierz.com wrote: > >> use notepad++ To me, for programming only in Python, IDLE beats Notepad++. Some features noted below. > [pay no attention to the little windows troll behind the curtain] > > "best" is subjective. Anytime someone wants the "best", I ask "what > features are important to you that would make it the best" because I'm > pretty sure what I find important wouldn't be what they find important. > > Things I've seen in a bunch of straight editors: > > - syntax coloring > - parathesis/block matching > - auto indent > - expansion of keywords, variables, subroutines > - integrated documentation so you don't have to lookup the syntax and > arguments of a function > - integration with code management systems (svn, git, github) > - regular expression searching > - multi-file regular expression search/replace > - multi-pane/window diff/merge > - programmability (e.g. write/store macros to perform repeatable tasks) > - integrated compile, run & syntax checking (this is really a function > of an IDE) When compile of text in editor fails, the cursor is moved to the spot where indicated by the compiler. When compile succeeds but there is a runtime error, one can jump from traceback to any of the file and line specified in the traceback. This is *extremely* useful. When one runs the integrated grep over part of the directory tree, one can jump to any of the file/line hits. > - interactive debugger (program stepping, expression & variable > evaluation, breakpoints, watchpoints, macros) [this is why I like perl] > - extensibility to add features (lint or code formatting, special > framework, etc.) > What's the best? That's your homework. Write 500 describing what is the > Best editor and why. -- Terry Jan Reedy