Path: csiph.com!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed0.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Ben Finney Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: how to convert code that uses cmp to python3 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 21:49:22 +1000 Lines: 45 Message-ID: References: <57064D0D.1030701@rece.vub.ac.be> <5706C961.2000009@rece.vub.ac.be> <57075F43.7060004@rece.vub.ac.be> <85fuuw5ypl.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <5707B2CE.1010407@rece.vub.ac.be> <5707BE18.1050805@rece.vub.ac.be> <5708C8B0.6050904@rece.vub.ac.be> <85twjb3su5.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 9OAHqeRaQF9YiniLfvaVbAEY7ONuDTS9u7HFcUoAMwqA== Cancel-Lock: sha1:x3ppFc+g2co4liSJNqO6YZo7lzs= Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'else:': 0.03; 'elif': 0.04; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'statistical': 0.09; '(true,': 0.16; 'cheaper.': 0.16; 'former,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'stake': 0.16; 'subject:python3': 0.16; 'cheap': 0.18; 'saying': 0.22; 'delta': 0.22; 'latter': 0.22; 'decide': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints- To:1': 0.26; 'least': 0.27; 'conditions:': 0.29; 'equality': 0.29; 'sentence': 0.29; 'subject:that': 0.29; 'expensive': 0.32; 'point': 0.33; 'possible,': 0.35; 'should': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'seem': 0.37; 'difference': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'between': 0.65; 'talking': 0.67; 'receive': 0.71; '_o__)': 0.84; 'catholic': 0.84; 'claim.': 0.84; 'inflection': 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84; 'parity': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <85twjb3su5.fsf@benfinney.id.au> X-Mailman-Original-References: <57064D0D.1030701@rece.vub.ac.be> <5706C961.2000009@rece.vub.ac.be> <57075F43.7060004@rece.vub.ac.be> <85fuuw5ypl.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <5707B2CE.1010407@rece.vub.ac.be> <5707BE18.1050805@rece.vub.ac.be> <5708C8B0.6050904@rece.vub.ac.be> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:106725 Antoon Pardon writes: > You don't seem to understand. I only do two comparisons and no the > equality is not necesarrily cheaper. > > I am talking about the difference between the following two: > > if arg.key < node.key: # possible expensive computation > go_left() > elif arg.key == node.key # possible expensive computation > found_node() > else: > go_right() > > and > > delta = cmp(arg.key, node.key) # possible expensive computation > if delta < 0: # cheap computation > go_left() > elif delta == 0: # cheap computation > found_node() > else: > go_right() I find that a dubious claim. The ‘cmp’ implementation must decide *at least* between three conditions: less-than, equal-to, greater-than. That is *at least* two inflection points. The implementation of ‘__lt__’ and the implementation of ‘__eq__’ each only need to decide two conditions (true, false). So that is *at most* two inflection points. If you're saying the latter implementation is somehow *more* expensive than the former, I think the implementations are suspect and likely can be improved: at least parity should be possible, to the point of statistical insignificance. -- \ “Perchance you who pronounce my sentence are in greater fear | `\ than I who receive it.” —Giordano Bruno, burned at the stake by | _o__) the Catholic church for the heresy of heliocentrism, 1600-02-16 | Ben Finney