Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Mark Lawrence Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Late-binding of function defaults (was Re: What is a function parameter =[] for?) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 06:39:38 +0000 Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <87d1v5emhl.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <564e6a62$0$1620$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <565592e9$0$1615$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87k2p54tdr.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <565652e1$0$1619$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <85si3t9wl0.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de TYkCpYSqbcwXmJ0tQvAfqgpYY/6NE3VF2VbMvh7W+q8g== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.036 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.05; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'discussions': 0.15; 'subject: \n ': 0.15; '+1.': 0.16; 'received:194.126': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:?)': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'language': 0.19; 'lawrence': 0.22; 'mind.': 0.22; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'comments': 0.30; "i'd": 0.31; 'language.': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'someone': 0.38; 'thank': 0.38; 'subject:-': 0.39; 'rather': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'mark': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'ever': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; 'entire': 0.61; 'design,': 0.61; 'received:194': 0.61; 'making': 0.62; 'industry.': 0.63; 'is.': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'wanting': 0.66; 'worth': 0.67; '\xe2\x80\x93': 0.72; 'batchelder': 0.84; 'pythonistas,': 0.84; 'faith': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 107.93.126.194.pool.dsl.daisyplc.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 In-Reply-To: <85si3t9wl0.fsf@benfinney.id.au> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:99529 On 26/11/2015 05:08, Ben Finney wrote: > Ned Batchelder writes: > >> For someone who claims to be interested in language design, you're >> remarkably dismissive of pretty much the entire industry. I don't >> think it's worth the effort to try to change your mind. > > +1. > > BartC, when you want to join us in discussions on good faith – that is, > honestly wanting to learn Python rather than dogmatically persisting in > your misperceptions dogmatically onto it – we'll still be here, making > happy use of Python the way it is. > Ben and Ned, I'd like to thank both of you for these comments as they are put far more eloquently and diplomatically than I would ever manage. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence