Path: csiph.com!news.swapon.de!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; 'subject:IDLE': 0.04; 'session.': 0.07; 'anymore.': 0.09; 'creighton': 0.09; 'indicates': 0.09; 'mkdir': 0.09; 'prevents': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'bug': 0.10; 'python': 0.10; 'jan': 0.11; '2.7': 0.13; 'skip:f 30': 0.15; '"_")': 0.16; "-n'": 0.16; '>>on': 0.16; 'alexander': 0.16; 'idlelib': 0.16; 'loopback': 0.16; 'meanwhile,': 0.16; 'quits': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:dip0.t-ipconnect.de': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:t-ipconnect.de': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'report?': 0.16; 'run.': 0.16; 'subprocess': 0.16; 'version?': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'attribute': 0.18; 'laura': 0.18; '>>>': 0.20; 'library': 0.20; 'student': 0.20; '2015': 0.20; 'skip:" 30': 0.20; 'skip:" 40': 0.20; '"",': 0.22; 'disabled': 0.22; 'ok.': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'tried': 0.24; 'import': 0.24; '(most': 0.24; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'command': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'fri,': 0.27; '14,': 0.27; "skip:' 10": 0.28; 'interface': 0.29; 'blocking': 0.29; 'firewall': 0.29; 'occasionally': 0.29; 'work.': 0.30; 'skip:_ 10': 0.32; 'help,': 0.32; 'run': 0.33; 'problem': 0.33; 'usually': 0.33; 'idle': 0.33; 'option.': 0.33; 'traceback': 0.33; 'file': 0.34; 'running': 0.34; 'installing': 0.35; 'mine': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'cases': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; '12,': 0.37; 'test': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'received:de': 0.40; 'software': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'ago.': 0.61; 'details': 0.62; '(that': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'personal': 0.63; 'python-list': 0.66; 'touch': 0.66; 'subject': 0.70; 'connection.': 0.76; 'saw': 0.77; 'os?': 0.84; 'seldom': 0.84; 'shadows': 0.84; 'subject:GET': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> Subject: Re: UNABLE TO GET IDLE TO RUN Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 11:42:54 +0200 Organization: None References: <1501485483.555358.1445441061800.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1501485483.555358.1445441061800.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <201510230905.t9N95FPe025528@fido.openend.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p57bd82a7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: KNode/4.13.3 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 64 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1445593409 news.xs4all.nl 23826 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54801 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:97919 Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Fri, 23 Oct 2015 00:19:42 -0400, Terry Reedy writes: >>On 10/21/2015 11:24 AM, Terry Alexander via Python-list wrote: >> >>> I have tried installing both Python 2.7 and 3.5, and in both cases I >>> cannot get IDLE to work. I received the following message both times: >> >>What OS? Windows? which version? How did you start IDLE? Start menu >>icon? Command line? >> >>> IDLE’s subprocess didn’t make connection.Either IDLE can’t start a >>> subprocess or personal firewall software is blocking the connection. >>> >>> I am running Norton, and disabled it, but still IDLE will not run. Any >>> suggestions? >> >>Don't shout with ALL CAPS in the subject line. It usually indicates >>spam. I already know that this problem is very frustrating. >> >>Firewalls are seldom the problems anymore. I occasionally saw this on >>Win 7 when restarting, but never on startup, and never more than once or >>twice in a session. >> >>What's left is misconfiguration of your network interface that prevents >>a loopback connection. There might be answers on Stackoverflow that >>would help, depending on your OS. >> >>In the meanwhile, you can start IDLE with the -n option. Either use a >>command line or create an 'IDLE -n' icon. Again, details depend on >>exact OS. >> >>-- >>Terry Jan Reedy > > You can also get this message if you run idle in directory where you > have your own python file whose name shadows something in the > standard library (that idle is interested in). I think it was > a file named 'string.py' that did this to a student of mine a > few years ago. > > Laura I tried it out: $ mkdir test $ cd test $ touch string.py $ idle3 Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in File "/usr/lib/python3.4/idlelib/run.py", line 12, in from idlelib import CallTips File "/usr/lib/python3.4/idlelib/CallTips.py", line 16, in from idlelib.HyperParser import HyperParser File "/usr/lib/python3.4/idlelib/HyperParser.py", line 14, in _ASCII_ID_CHARS = frozenset(string.ascii_letters + string.digits + "_") AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'ascii_letters' Then idle shows the message and quits after you hit OK. Is there a bug report?