Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.011 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'broken': 0.04; 'true,': 0.05; 'spaces': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; '-tkc': 0.16; 'argument.': 0.16; 'broken.': 0.16; 'from:addr:python.list': 0.16; 'from:addr:tim.thechases.com': 0.16; 'from:name:tim chase': 0.16; 'tab': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'code.': 0.18; 'properly': 0.19; 'programming': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; "world's": 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'tried': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.30; 'characters': 0.30; 'said,': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; "i'd": 0.34; 'editor': 0.35; 'one,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'charset:us- ascii': 0.36; 'rather': 0.38; 'changed': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'read': 0.60; 'characters,': 0.84; 'dozens': 0.84; 'notepad,': 0.84; 'received:50.22': 0.84; 'edwards': 0.91 Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 14:40:19 -0500 From: Tim Chase To: Grant Edwards Subject: Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - boston.accountservergroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tim.thechases.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: boston.accountservergroup.com: authenticated_id: tim@thechases.com Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1404416479 news.xs4all.nl 2930 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:47920 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:73917 On 2014-07-03 19:02, Grant Edwards wrote: > > That may be true, but that same person is going to have a > > difficult time editing the code. > > That's true with Notepad, but with dozens of other programming > editors, code indented with spaces will read and edit prefectly. > Not so for tab-indented code. A broken editor isn't the world's best argument. If I used an editor that changed my line-endings, randomly altered arbitrary characters, or tried to compress multiple spaces into one, I'd complain that the editor was broken. If a file has tab characters and my editor doesn't let me properly deal with characters, then THE EDITOR IS BROKEN. That said, even though I'm "-0" on "use 4 spaces rather than tabs", I conform to the standard to reduce interop headache even if I'd rather use tabs. -tkc