Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.mixmin.net!feeder1.xsusenet.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:IDLE': 0.04; 'session.': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'anymore.': 0.09; 'indicates': 0.09; 'prevents': 0.09; 'received:openend.se': 0.09; 'received:theraft.openend.se': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'jan': 0.11; '2.7': 0.13; "-n'": 0.16; '>in': 0.16; '>on': 0.16; 'alexander': 0.16; 'cc:addr:lac': 0.16; 'cc:addr:openend.se': 0.16; 'from:addr:lac': 0.16; 'from:addr:openend.se': 0.16; 'from:name:laura creighton': 0.16; 'loopback': 0.16; 'meanwhile,': 0.16; 'message-id:@fido.openend.se': 0.16; 'received:fido': 0.16; 'received:fido.openend.se': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'run.': 0.16; 'subprocess': 0.16; 'version?': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'laura': 0.18; 'library': 0.20; 'student': 0.20; '2015': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'cc:2**1': 0.22; 'disabled': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'tried': 0.24; 'command': 0.26; 'fri,': 0.27; 'interface': 0.29; 'blocking': 0.29; 'firewall': 0.29; 'occasionally': 0.29; 'received:se': 0.29; 'cc:no real name:2**1': 0.29; 'work.': 0.30; 'help,': 0.32; 'run': 0.33; 'problem': 0.33; 'usually': 0.33; 'idle': 0.33; 'option.': 0.33; 'file': 0.34; 'running': 0.34; 'installing': 0.35; 'mine': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'cases': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'where': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'software': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.61; 'ago.': 0.61; 'details': 0.62; '(that': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'personal': 0.63; 'python-list': 0.66; 'subject': 0.70; 'connection.': 0.76; 'saw': 0.77; 'header :In-reply-to:1': 0.84; 'os?': 0.84; 'seldom': 0.84; 'shadows': 0.84; 'subject:GET': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=openend.se; s=default; t=1445591119; bh=K6I5FoUYqnC+Qbt9qDvf1gs/Vwf37u9kBCbTYN64AoY=; h=To:cc:From:Subject:In-reply-to:References:Date:From; b=UORyYDh0DqHdCIUZm98+WGFR5NMSHgo5jew4+gybSfaiaWqTpdLmL41LKtLIdqPEg O9wAuRuKOfqiXkCVivc5CYIXduE3hX9h9NttfJ9LugM4UqXGE40odgjbshy3UOOIEV epBpjNkqxzXHRLfZJ3yHiwxITEaY3Xq46uB443mQ= To: Terry Reedy cc: python-list@python.org, lac@openend.se From: Laura Creighton Subject: Re: UNABLE TO GET IDLE TO RUN In-reply-to: References: <1501485483.555358.1445441061800.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1501485483.555358.1445441061800.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Comments: In-reply-to Terry Reedy message dated "Fri, 23 Oct 2015 00:19:42 -0400." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-ID: <25526.1445591115.1@fido> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 11:05:15 +0200 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.9 (theraft.openend.se [82.96.5.2]); Fri, 23 Oct 2015 11:05:19 +0200 (CEST) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 40 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1445591129 news.xs4all.nl 23738 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49822 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:97918 In a message of Fri, 23 Oct 2015 00:19:42 -0400, Terry Reedy writes: >On 10/21/2015 11:24 AM, Terry Alexander via Python-list wrote: > >> I have tried installing both Python 2.7 and 3.5, and in both cases I >> cannot get IDLE to work. I received the following message both times: > >What OS? Windows? which version? How did you start IDLE? Start menu >icon? Command line? > >> IDLE’s subprocess didn’t make connection.Either IDLE can’t start a >> subprocess or personal firewall software is blocking the connection. >> >> I am running Norton, and disabled it, but still IDLE will not run. Any >> suggestions? > >Don't shout with ALL CAPS in the subject line. It usually indicates >spam. I already know that this problem is very frustrating. > >Firewalls are seldom the problems anymore. I occasionally saw this on >Win 7 when restarting, but never on startup, and never more than once or >twice in a session. > >What's left is misconfiguration of your network interface that prevents >a loopback connection. There might be answers on Stackoverflow that >would help, depending on your OS. > >In the meanwhile, you can start IDLE with the -n option. Either use a >command line or create an 'IDLE -n' icon. Again, details depend on >exact OS. > >-- >Terry Jan Reedy You can also get this message if you run idle in directory where you have your own python file whose name shadows something in the standard library (that idle is interested in). I think it was a file named 'string.py' that did this to a student of mine a few years ago. Laura