Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.04; 'implements': 0.05; 'type,': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; '(self,': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'def': 0.13; "'a'": 0.16; "'int'": 0.16; 'believe.': 0.16; 'received:dip.t-dialin.net': 0.16; 'received:t-dialin.net': 0.16; 'subject:() ': 0.16; 'subject:sum': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.18; 'subject:not': 0.19; '(most': 0.21; "doesn't": 0.22; 'from:addr:web.de': 0.23; 'operand': 0.23; 'traceback': 0.24; 'fix': 0.25; 'expect': 0.25; 'not.': 0.28; 'pass': 0.29; 'explicitly': 0.29; 'class': 0.29; 'null)': 0.30; 'subject:number': 0.30; 'typeerror:': 0.30; 'error': 0.30; 'implement': 0.32; 'file': 0.34; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.34; 'certain': 0.34; 'last):': 0.34; 'null': 0.34; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.35; 'two': 0.36; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.37; 'skip:_ 10': 0.38; 'could': 0.38; 'should': 0.38; "i'd": 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'type': 0.61; 'design': 0.61; 'buck': 0.84; 'other):': 0.84; 'self.': 0.84; 'type(s)': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> Subject: Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:29:20 +0100 Organization: None References: <91c71e41-b98c-46f6-b3af-bed894cf9d92@kh11g2000pbb.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p50849ddf.dip.t-dialin.net X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 47 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1330072130 news.xs4all.nl 6931 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33860 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:20788 Buck Golemon wrote: > I feel like the design of sum() is inconsistent with other language > features of python. Often python doesn't require a specific type, only > that the type implement certain methods. > > Given a class that implements __add__ why should sum() not be able to > operate on that class? > > We can fix this in a backward-compatible way, I believe. > > Demonstration: > I'd expect these two error messages to be identical, but they are > not. > > >>> class C(object): pass > >>> c = C() > >>> sum((c,c)) > TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'int' and 'C' > >>> c + c > TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'C' and 'C' You could explicitly provide a null object: >>> class Null(object): ... def __add__(self, other): ... return other ... >>> null = Null() >>> class A(object): ... def __init__(self, v): ... self.v = v ... def __add__(self, other): ... return A("%s+%s" % (self, other)) ... def __str__(self): ... return self.v ... def __repr__(self): ... return "A(%r)" % self. v ... >>> sum(map(A, "abc")) Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'int' and 'A' >>> sum(map(A, "abc"), null) A('a+b+c')