Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.037 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; '*not*': 0.07; 'scale.': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'url:blog': 0.10; 'finney': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:?)': 0.16; 'subject:Discussion': 0.16; 'subject:problems': 0.16; 'appropriate': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'solution.': 0.20; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'paul': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'relative': 0.30; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'stuff': 0.32; 'everyone': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'subject: (': 0.35; "can't": 0.35; 'agree': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'bought': 0.36; 'crazy': 0.36; 'described': 0.36; 'raising': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'server': 0.38; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'subject:" ': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'ian': 0.60; 'tell': 0.60; 'offer': 0.62; 'complete': 0.62; 'more': 0.64; '8bit%:21': 0.69; 'jul': 0.74; "paul's": 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'subject:source': 0.84; 'obligation': 0.91; 'silent': 0.95 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Discussion problems of monoculture (was: What's the "right" way to abandon an open source package?) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 09:34:48 +1000 References: <53b30097$0$29985$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <20140701220545.19bf95c9@x34f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:F4C+n0Mpte5euxl7TG9kKofqHiQ= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1404257703 news.xs4all.nl 2964 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:41707 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:73818 Ian Kelly writes: > On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Paul Sokolovsky wrote: > > On 01 Jul 2014 18:40:23 GMT > > Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/201405/github_monoculture.html > > > > Everyone who (re)posts stuff like that should have mandatory N.B. of "I > > just bought a server farm to offer an alternative". > > There already are alternatives. Even if there weren't, I cannot at all agree with Paul's sentiment. Someone raising awareness of a problem is *not* under any obligation to stay silent in the absence of a complete ready solution. Frequently, a solution can only realistically come when *many* people talk about the problem first; all the more so when the problem described is one of large scale. -- \ “Sane people have an appropriate perspective on the relative | `\ importance of foodstuffs and human beings. Crazy people can't | _o__) tell the difference.” —Paul Z. Myers, 2010-04-18 | Ben Finney