Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.012 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.05; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'spec': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'python.': 0.11; 'err...': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; "wouldn't": 0.16; 'odd': 0.18; 'language': 0.19; '>>>': 0.20; 'together.': 0.20; "aren't": 0.22; 'developers.': 0.22; 'lawrence': 0.22; 'finished': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'sort': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; "doesn't": 0.26; 'developers': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'idea,': 0.29; 'pep': 0.29; 'code': 0.30; 'somebody': 0.30; 'probably': 0.31; 'language.': 0.32; 'should': 0.36; "wasn't": 0.36; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'say': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'aspects': 0.37; 'rather': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'mark': 0.40; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'our': 0.64; 'production.': 0.66; 'everybody': 0.67; '99.999%': 0.84; 'judges': 0.84; 'pythonistas,': 0.84; 'subject:Send': 0.84; 'them)': 0.84; 'participants': 0.85; 'critics': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 20:29:08 +0100 References: <97b62bfd-8b6d-45f0-8597-7799ba0ea4af@googlegroups.com> <6be85999-9a5a-4fd9-879b-f0777dc19643@googlegroups.com> <871tfmvoqc.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87wpxeu8ot.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-147-187-35.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 In-Reply-To: <87wpxeu8ot.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 42 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1438457363 news.xs4all.nl 2866 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:47142 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:94857 On 01/08/2015 20:09, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Mark Lawrence : > >> On 01/08/2015 19:38, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >>> It is odd how an engineering forum like this one so often judges >>> ideas based on the pedigree of the participants rather than objective >>> technical arguments. >> >> What I find odd is that the bleating and whinging comes long after the >> PEP process has finished and the code is already in production. >> Wouldn't it be easier for everybody all around to sort this out right >> at the start of the process? > > Err... > > * You are free to say you don't like something, even aspects of Python. > > * Criticism can be well-founded even if the critic wasn't around when > the developers put the spec together. > > * Most Python users (as in 99.999% of them) aren't Python developers. > That's as it should be. > > * Even if critics had been around and voiced their criticism, asyncio > probably would have been introduced. > > * Even if somebody doesn't like an idea, somebody else might love it. > > Are you happy with asyncio, Mark? > > > Marko > Yes. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence