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From: "Prasad, Ramit" <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com>
To: "python-list@python.org" <python-list@python.org>
Subject: RE: Number of languages known [was Re: Python is readable] - somewhat	OT
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> >> You can't merge all of them without making a language that's=0D=0A> >>=
 suboptimal at most of those tasks - probably, one that's woeful at all=0D=
=0A> >> of them=2E I mention SQL because, even if you were to unify all=0D=
=0A> >> programming languages, you'd still need other non-application=0D=0A=
> >> languages to get the job done=2E=0D=0A> > =2E=2E=2E=0D=0A> > But this =
has nothing to do with being "suboptimal at most tasks"=2E It's=0D=0A> > ea=
sy to make a language that can do everything C can do, and also=0D=0A> > ev=
erything that Haskell can do=2E I can write an implementation of this=0D=0A=
> > programming language in one line of bash[*]=2E The easy way is to make=
=0D=0A> > those features mutually exclusive=2E We don't have to sacrifice a=
nything=0D=0A> > by including more features until we want them to work toge=
ther=2E=0D=0A> =0D=0A> Of course it's POSSIBLE=2E You can write everything =
in Ook if you want=0D=0A> to=2E But any attempt to merge all programming la=
nguages into one will=0D=0A> either:=0D=0A> =0D=0A> 1) Allow different part=
s of a program to be written in different=0D=0A> subsets of this universal =
language, which just means that you've=0D=0A> renamed all the languages but=
 kept their distinctions (so a programmer=0D=0A> still has to learn all of =
them); or=0D=0A> =0D=0A> 2) Shoehorn every task into one language, equivale=
nt to knowing only=0D=0A> one language and using that for everything=2E Goo=
d luck with that=2E=0D=0A=0D=0AIn a much simpler context, isn't this what =
=2ENET's CLR does? Except=0D=0Athat instead of converting each language int=
o each other it converts=0D=0Aeverything into a different language=2E I hav=
e trouble in my mind seeing=0D=0Ahow what you suggest would not end up with=
 badly coded versions of a=0D=0Atranslated program=2E Never yet seen a prog=
ram that could convert from one =0D=0Aparadigm/language directly to another=
 (and do it well/maintainable)=2E =0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A> The debate keeps on c=
oming up, but it's not just political decisions=0D=0A> that maintain langua=
ge diversity=2E=0D=0A=0D=0ANot a bad thing in my opinion=2E  A tool for eac=
h problem, but I can =0D=0Asee the appeal of a multi-tool language=2E =0D=
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