Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.datemas.de!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.158 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.71; '*S*': 0.03; 'binary': 0.07; 'subject:bug': 0.07; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; '2.0': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'possible.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'range': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'more': 0.64; '26,': 0.68; '"high"': 0.84; 'inherent': 0.84; 'average': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=K/x8zCxQ2k8Fak1qpqD/terJUa/NAvRQZ5SVRWk2So8=; b=tzlxp0AP1OtvDvYFLUFLCK4spknzEK83uuSeYqNwYIczZDQ/gR1UyZN4OaTdYvkMTy 019UbfmkxN2dN2ijD8QCJcXDbGZ4TpUSQTahF3MNsrkotLW3I4r38IvlbPgaAUvbmg2m 6YKDCUIBlgnDxRWaNcT28ZEKiBUtw0xBoXtw0s78/F1IUYTA9++rVKdLyrKvsJn7zLSO YsPfFWHWDOfnSizXj15+vdd52sRqrSEw5rvOhAoZgr0hUvt1pl+Qv7R5xUv+/ruvs7MH iPfsN7JIWOdNEOrc0NeAkBSbSRrkQRR74244RB64frVXihg5VpDurhEOPb5koOh0tOn6 LksQ== X-Received: by 10.69.31.107 with SMTP id kl11mr32218656pbd.70.1403885975306; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 09:19:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <645be4a7-2e1b-44a4-9c45-9184c6df5518@googlegroups.com> <53ab8bc4$0$11121$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <53abe4ad$0$11121$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <53acdc2d$0$29985$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> From: Ian Kelly Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 10:18:54 -0600 Subject: Re: python 3.44 float addition bug? To: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1403885983 news.xs4all.nl 2974 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46393 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:73662 On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > But you're right that this can be very surprising. And it's inherent > to the concept of digits having more range than just "high" or "low", > so there's no way you can get this with binary floats. For an average of two numbers, I think that's true. For an average of more than two numbers, it's possible. >>> a = 2.0 ** 53 - 1 >>> b = 2.0 ** 53 - 2 >>> a 9007199254740991.0 >>> b 9007199254740990.0 >>> (a + b + b) / 3 9007199254740989.0