Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.015 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; '(especially': 0.07; 'canvas': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'wrote': 0.14; '"python"': 0.16; 'angled': 0.16; 'png': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'usable': 0.16; 'extensions': 0.16; 'properly': 0.19; 'seems': 0.21; 'command': 0.22; 'platforms': 0.22; 'load': 0.23; 'package.': 0.24; 'least': 0.26; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'installed': 0.27; 'feature': 0.29; 'gives': 0.31; 'img': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'handled': 0.32; 'text': 0.33; 'mac': 0.33; 'basic': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'google': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'installing': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'project': 0.37; 'level': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'expect': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'results.': 0.60; 'ago,': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'received:62': 0.63; 'show': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'finally': 0.65; 'experience.': 0.67; 'lack': 0.78; 'glad': 0.83; 'computers.': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: "Peter Tomcsanyi" Subject: Re: Python 3.4.1 installer on Mac links Python to old Tcl/Tk Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 12:39:34 +0200 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.197.243.26 In-Reply-To: X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 36 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1403779201 news.xs4all.nl 2955 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:36818 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:73615 "Christian Gollwitzer" wrote in message news:lofciv$nq6$1@dont-email.me... > For PNG image support you can load either the Img package which gives > support for a large variety of images, or the smaller tkpng package. My first Google search for "tkpng" "python" gave no usable results. So I am not sure if and how can I use these Tk extensions from Python... And finally I want to show the picture(s) on a Tk-based Canvas on top of each other with properly handled semi-transparency. In our project we want to use as little as possible additonal packages because we expect that the end-users will use several platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux) and installing any extra Python-related package on non-Windows platform seems to be a nightmare, at least that is the result of the past three months of experience. The need to go to the command line level for such a basic thing like installing or uninstalling something seems to me like going 20 to 30 years back in history. We cannot expect that our end-users (especially the Mac-based ones) will have that expertise even if they have enough expertise to program in Python when it is finally correctly installed on their computers. > For angled text it's right, I don't know, there used to be some hacks > before, it's probably not possible in a clean way. I was actually negatively surprised by the lack of this very basic feature (especially in a vector-graphics-based environment) when I started with Python+Tk a few months ago, so I was very glad to see it in 8.6 and I immediately started using it on Windows. But then I receved complaints from a Mac user that it just does not work... Peter