Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!news.tele.dk!feed118.news.tele.dk!feed116.news.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.radio.cz!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!newsfeed.eweka.nl!eweka.nl!feeder3.eweka.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.012 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'bug': 0.02; 'repository': 0.07; 'cool.': 0.09; 'mercurial': 0.09; 'subject:hosting': 0.09; 'am,': 0.13; 'wrote:': 0.15; 'library': 0.15; 'bzr': 0.16; 'distributed,': 0.16; 'git.': 0.16; 'imho,': 0.16; 'launchpad': 0.16; 'mercurial.': 0.16; 'perception': 0.16; 'received:192.168.1.40': 0.16; 'protocol': 0.16; 'pm,': 0.16; '>>>': 0.16; 'operations.': 0.19; "haven't": 0.21; '(but': 0.22; 'compared': 0.22; 'jason': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'gnu': 0.23; 'subject:Code': 0.23; 'versions': 0.23; 'project,': 0.24; 'sat,': 0.28; 'server': 0.29; 'problem': 0.29; 'fact': 0.30; 'transport': 0.30; 'version': 0.30; 'least': 0.31; 'separate': 0.31; 'andrew': 0.32; 'certainly': 0.32; 'too': 0.32; 'does': 0.32; 'closing': 0.33; "i'll": 0.33; 'it.': 0.33; 'anyone': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.34; 'instead': 0.34; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.34; 'there': 0.34; 'however,': 0.34; 'quite': 0.34; 'agree': 0.35; 'project': 0.35; 'pretty': 0.35; 'uses': 0.35; 'speak': 0.37; 'hosting': 0.37; 'some': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'using': 0.37; 'received:192': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'think': 0.38; 'problems': 0.38; 'program,': 0.39; 'received:192.168.1': 0.39; 'difficult': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'did': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'services': 0.61; 'projects': 0.62; 'due': 0.66; 'received:62': 0.67; 'gain': 0.79; '06:00': 0.84; 'from:addr:t': 0.84; 'marginally': 0.84; 'slow.': 0.84; 'ton': 0.84; '10:32': 0.91; 'earl': 0.91; 'subject:services': 0.93 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:20:16 +0200 From: Thomas Jollans User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110626 Iceowl/1.0b2 Icedove/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Code hosting services References: <4E214C95.7060100@gmail.com> <87livyrzb0.fsf@notengoamigos.org> In-Reply-To: <87livyrzb0.fsf@notengoamigos.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 OpenPGP: id=5C8691ED Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 33 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1310840416 news.xs4all.nl 23890 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43384 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:9643 On 07/16/2011 06:00 PM, Jason Earl wrote: > On Sat, Jul 16 2011, Thomas Jollans wrote: > >> On 07/16/2011 10:32 AM, Andrew Berg wrote: >>> Does anyone know if there are any services that have cross-project >>> integration? I can see myself closing a ton of bug reports just because >>> they are issues with the library part of the program, which will be a >>> separate project (because there will be other projects based on that >>> same library). >> >> Launchpad has a cross-project bug tracker. Launchpad also uses the >> excruciatingly slow (but distributed, and written-in-python) bzr for >> version control. > > I think that you will find that recent versions of bzr are no longer > slow, at least compared to Mercurial. My experience with bzr is with > the Emacs project, and it is true that there were some performance when > it first switched. Most of the problems, however, were due to the fact > that that the GNU server hosting the Emacs bzr repository did not allow > updates via the bzr protocol but instead forced the use of a dumb > transport (sftp). > > You don't have that problem when using Launchpad. > > I will certainly agree that bzr's past problems have made it difficult > for the system to gain traction. The perception is that bzr is unusably > slow. This is too bad, IMHO, as Launchpad is pretty cool. I haven't used it in quite a while, so I'll take your word for it. bzr used to be a lot slower that Mercurial on *local* operations. Mercurial is, and has always been, only marginally slower than git. And let's not speak of darcs.