Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'interpreter': 0.05; 'assignment': 0.07; 'identifier': 0.09; 'raises': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'specific.': 0.09; 'underscore': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'evaluation;': 0.16; 'kern': 0.16; 'nameerror:': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'side.': 0.16; 'subject:Single': 0.16; 'underlying': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'seems': 0.21; '(the': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'interpret': 0.24; 'skip:` 20': 0.24; 'defined': 0.27; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'function': 0.29; 'correct': 0.29; 'evaluation': 0.30; 'mode': 0.30; 'robert': 0.30; 'statement': 0.30; '"",': 0.31; '>>>>': 0.31; 'explained': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'skip:- 30': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; '(most': 0.33; 'beginning': 0.33; '"the': 0.34; 'url:org': 0.36; 'somebody': 0.38; 'url:library': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'recent': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'according': 0.40; 'release': 0.40; '2nd': 0.60; 'expression': 0.60; 'url:3': 0.61; 'name': 0.63; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'our': 0.64; 'provide': 0.64; 'different': 0.65; 'world': 0.66; 'believe': 0.68; 'special': 0.74; 'hand': 0.80; 'eco': 0.84; 'terrible': 0.84; 'received:86': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Robert Kern Subject: Re: Single underscore in interactive mode Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 18:53:40 +0100 References: <3db49432-3133-414f-9c44-ebb595a7ae8f@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc12-cmbg17-2-0-cust443.5-4.cable.virginm.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 In-Reply-To: <3db49432-3133-414f-9c44-ebb595a7ae8f@googlegroups.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 60 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1403718839 news.xs4all.nl 2965 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39779 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:73581 On 2014-06-25 16:20, candide wrote: > According to the official documentation (The Python Language Reference, Release 3.2): > > > ----------------------------------- > The special identifier _ is used in the interactive interpreter to > store the result of the last evaluation; > ----------------------------------- > > > This description is not very specific. Which evaluation is it about ? Consider the following interactive mode session: > >>>> z = 42 + 1 >>>> _ > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > _ > NameError: name '_' is not defined >>>> > > As explained by the docs, an assignment statement _evaluates_ the expression on the right hand side. So we can deduce that at the very beginning of the 2nd prompt, "the result of the last evaluation" is 43. Nevertheless, calling _ raises a NameError exception! > > > > In fact it seems that underscore returns the value of the last expression statement which is different from None : > > >>>> 4*10+2 > 42 >>>> _ > 42 >>>> "hello" > 'hello' >>>> _ > 'hello' >>>> print(42) > 42 >>>> _ > 'hello' >>>> None >>>> _ > 'hello' >>>> > > > Can somebody provide a correct specification of the _ identifier in interactive mode ? See the documentation on `sys.displayhook()`, which is the function that makes the assignment: https://docs.python.org/3/library/sys.html#sys.displayhook -- Robert Kern "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." -- Umberto Eco