Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'output': 0.04; 'python': 0.09; 'modules.': 0.09; 'sep': 0.09; 'to:addr:comp.lang.python': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'thread': 0.11; 'confusion': 0.16; "key's": 0.16; 'object),': 0.16; 'pipes': 0.16; 'thread.': 0.16; 'threads': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'input': 0.18; 'memory': 0.18; 'pending': 0.20; 'work,': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; '(you': 0.23; 'mention': 0.23; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'connected': 0.24; 'pass': 0.25; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'run': 0.28; 'environment': 0.29; 'i/o': 0.29; 'pickle': 0.29; 'workaround': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'maybe': 0.29; 'fri,': 0.30; 'file': 0.32; 'could': 0.32; 'print': 0.32; 'url:home': 0.33; "can't": 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'clear': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'except': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'itself': 0.37; 'ok,': 0.37; 'resolve': 0.37; 'does': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'object': 0.38; 'received:209.85.214': 0.39; 'think': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'share': 0.61; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'behavior': 0.64; 'note:': 0.64; 'received:209.85.214.184': 0.84; 'received:mail- ob0-f184.google.com': 0.84; 'subject:kind': 0.84; 'dennis': 0.91 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 08:49:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=122.167.116.118; posting-account=uPFZNQoAAAAm9w7z13q1SjWNKNjztdcD References: <0be9b4c2-b661-4709-ba8f-40a6f78ad634@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Google-Web-Client: true X-Google-IP: 122.167.116.118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Seome kind of unblocking input From: Ramchandra Apte To: comp.lang.python@googlegroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Message-ID: Lines: 54 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1348415394 news.xs4all.nl 6897 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48265 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:29818 On Saturday, 22 September 2012 01:24:46 UTC+5:30, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 02:13:28 -0700 (PDT), janis.judvaitis@gmail.com >=20 > declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: >=20 >=20 >=20 > > Since I'm using threads and pipes everything works ok, except that when= i call input() there is no way that I could print something, is there any = workaround for this?? >=20 > >=20 >=20 > > Note: I don't need to catch any key's before enter or smtng, just be ab= le to print while input() is waiting. I'm thinking that maybe there is a wa= y for two threads to share one stdout, which should resolve this, but I can= 't make it work, since U can't pickle file like object(stdout) to pass it t= o other thread. >=20 > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > Confusion abounds... >=20 >=20 >=20 > You don't have to "pickle file like object..." for it to be used by >=20 > a Python THREAD... But your mention of pipes makes me think you are >=20 > using subprocesses and/or multiprocessing modules. Threads run in a >=20 > shared environment (you may need to put a lock around the file object so >=20 > that only one thread at a time does the I/O on that object), but >=20 > processes are independent memory spaces. >=20 >=20 >=20 > However, you may also encounter OS specific behavior WRT >=20 > stdout/stderr when they are connected to a console. The OS itself may >=20 > block/buffer output when there is a pending input on the same console. >=20 > --=20 >=20 > Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN >=20 > wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/ You can clear the buffer by calling file.flush()