Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.012 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'ascii': 0.07; 'exists,': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:()': 0.09; 'terry': 0.09; 'index': 0.13; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:3.3': 0.16; 'subject:unicode': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'jan': 0.18; 'proposed': 0.20; 'tracker': 0.20; 'fixing': 0.22; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'bugs': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'builds.': 0.29; 'initially': 0.30; 'relative': 0.30; 'could': 0.32; 'builds': 0.33; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.33; 'list': 0.35; 'saved': 0.35; 'text.': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'really': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'method': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'space': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'most': 0.61; 'subject:, ': 0.61; 'wide': 0.62; 'different': 0.63; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'fact,': 0.69; 'contrary': 0.71; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'quality.': 0.91; 'convinced': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: Py 3.3, unicode / upper() Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 17:59:31 -0500 References: <2adb4a25-8ea3-441f-b8c0-ee6c87e4b19f@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-75-251-66.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1356044394 news.xs4all.nl 6957 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42217 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:35240 On 12/20/2012 2:19 PM, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote: > My feeling is that most of the people are defending this FSR simply > because it exists, not because of its intrisic quality. The fact, contrary to your feeling, is that I was initially dubious that is could be made to work as well as it does. I was only really convinced when I ran stringbench in response to your over-genralized assertions. It is also a fact that I proposed on the tracker and pydev list a different method of fixing the length and index bugs in narrow builds. It only saved space relative to wide builds but did not have the additional space-saving of the new scheme for ascii and latin-1 text. -- Terry Jan Reedy