Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder7.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.013 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'programmer': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'explicit': 0.07; 'correspond': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; '"object': 0.16; 'cc:name:python list': 0.16; 'programmer,': 0.16; 'subject:Java': 0.16; 'types,': 0.16; '>>>': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'easier': 0.31; 'computer.': 0.33; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'c++': 0.36; 'how': 0.40; 'new': 0.61; 'no.': 0.61; 'our': 0.64; 'hand': 0.80; 'relate': 0.84; 'washington': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=+TszN6r7gKP7HVLy565t+iyqWtWtiu6eiXvBptWy3Fk=; b=LN0PbscCZuqo+CoNjlEAlfbb0cdBrVg/h/2XWvxugjrP6jPJ/Jial+FnUW7PnT//Hn iC6hLpyJuLhh3SHRxqvHumEy6v4ofxu1f1yuaM9gCv2e3pB5Uw/6RfM7vyYE0Sg+32FI Y8VgdjoPjgi/5+EOEcoCSSR8HMQtNI8mkgd/g/ltYga4sgttn8XBPoFhpR6jb/TwUy46 ljY+rYJBAzn68twOmKP7E37EgOjKhbtJk4BK0Lu8lfALRIDDW5pbPvbybveuThZkK0mB ClnJW4fxAqG/G1kO/J50UZg/nJ0C+jaDlvNTF7zXo7fmJTr/anP9psDDUtncqwlhIGav 8MgQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.20.202 with SMTP id p10mr3678566wje.39.1381946223550; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 10:57:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 10:57:03 -0700 Subject: Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) From: Mark Janssen To: Rhodri James Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Python List X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1381946230 news.xs4all.nl 15890 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57774 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:56889 >>> Types on the other hand correspond to our classifications and so are >>> things in our minds. >> >> That is not how a C programmer views it. They have explicit >> "typedef"s that make it a thing for the computer. > > Speaking as a C programmer, no. We have explicit typedefs to create new > labels for existing types, to make the type-abstraction easier to relate to > the object-abstraction. Who uses "object abstraction" in C? No one. That's why C++ was invented. -- MarkJ Tacoma, Washington