Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder7.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.020 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; '(even': 0.05; 'parsing': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:files': 0.09; 'subject:How': 0.10; 'translation': 0.12; 'csv': 0.16; 'message-id:@4ax.com': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'module': 0.19; 'parse': 0.24; 'url:home': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'leave': 0.29; 'database,': 0.30; 'pickle': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'stuff': 0.32; 'updated': 0.34; "i'd": 0.34; "can't": 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'accessing': 0.36; 'useful': 0.36; 'charset:us- ascii': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'received:76': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'use.': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'read': 0.60; 'simply': 0.61; 'simple': 0.61; 'note:': 0.66; 'again?': 0.84; 'often?': 0.84; 'penalty': 0.84; 'why?': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: How pickle helps in reading huge files? Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 13:32:33 -0400 Organization: IISS Elusive Unicorn References: <0044bfd0-f07f-4f7b-b976-5df034b6fec6@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-76-249-17-176.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1381944762 news.xs4all.nl 15920 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49136 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:56887 On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 23:55:26 -0700 (PDT), Harsh Jha declaimed the following: >I've a huge csv file and I want to read stuff from it again and again. Is it useful to pickle it and keep and then unpickle it whenever I need to use that data? Is it faster that accessing that file simply by opening it again and again? Please explain, why? > As others mention, what is "huge"? Does it get updated often? How extensive are updates? I suspect I'd use the CSV module to parse it into an SQLite3 database, then use the database for the repetitive access. NOTE: I've never used pickle -- but for stuff that is coming in as simple CSV I'd suspect the parsing (even including the various int()/float() wrapping of numeric fields) can't be much slower than the object creation/unwrapping used by pickle; SQLite3 should let you leave the data in numeric formats without the translation penalty on each use. -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/