Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; '(at': 0.04; 'yet.': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'contributor': 0.07; 'modify': 0.07; 'imported': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'subject:2.7': 0.09; 'tests,': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; '2.7': 0.14; 'mostly': 0.14; 'question.': 0.14; 'changes': 0.15; '--\xc2\xa0': 0.16; 'appengine': 0.16; 'email addr:udel.edu>': 0.16; 'email name:<tjreedy': 0.16; 'formatted': 0.16; 'pass;': 0.16; 'possible?': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'volunteers.': 0.16; 'sender:addr:gmail.com': 0.17; 'fix': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'commit': 0.19; 'properly': 0.19; 'written': 0.21; 'tests': 0.22; 'propose': 0.24; 'sorry,': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'tracker': 0.26; '----------': 0.26; 'post': 0.26; 'least': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'patch': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'said,': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'relies': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'not.': 0.33; 'date:': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'test': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'google': 0.35; 'should': 0.36; 'changing': 0.37; 'thank': 0.38; 'focused': 0.38; 'somebody': 0.38; 'needed': 0.38; 'whatever': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'files': 0.38; 'skip:- 10': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'forwarded': 0.39; 'subject:': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'extended': 0.61; 'issues,': 0.61; 'no.': 0.61; 'simple': 0.61; 'you.': 0.62; 'guarantee': 0.63; 're:': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'attention.': 0.68; 'bothered': 0.68; '(internet)': 0.84; '2.7.': 0.84; '3.4': 0.84; 'cc:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.84; 'readiness': 0.84; 'careful': 0.91; 'subject: #': 0.96 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=BzLkH48LACKpLyvJ2iaAqw5jMABX50j67C72gB5a1pk=; b=W+Pw5MVa7zhC5NywgR8kZ6DiKSJRsEjcCxPWNINOCyLlonueYdf4ByrnrKxo6J51UT s6Nfd0oSSMsLxbGpDzJyIambq8qpFJX/7SpusnamrGhczd7cIUjOiZ8w5S1zdcM1I4Ag w06ZAIWLYsuxebZoL3lRKRf5uPN3hLtFUSYut4mFPKfLqVWc+qQgKw061BshpLDlEd/+ fq8/EYR9EwSfXLLbWFXbAWXBm6RF50GQWLeI+9YWIkapUyJ4xxZTyEry56MmFptq5re9 1HhkfsfzG5o+6wjOFz26QWrt7LWq312KQJ6PnHdaEVLyFHh6sdds56EBZ/J98Owrw4lK uOrg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.12.9 with SMTP id v9mr6332069qav.99.1403182392136; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 05:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Sender: kwatch@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 21:53:12 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: eQiGdCGRtMv2GlkTFDe0mX0Wby0 Subject: Re: Backport fix on #16611 to Python 2.7 From: Makoto Kuwata To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0149c6ae09d97d04fc2fdc1d Cc: breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 117 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1403182717 news.xs4all.nl 2850 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:60959 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:73420 --089e0149c6ae09d97d04fc2fdc1d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sorry, I failed to post reply: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Makoto Kuwata Date: Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 5:32 PM Subject: Re: Backport fix on #16611 to Python 2.7 To: Terry Reedy On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > > Do you have any plan to upgrade to 3.4, so you get *all* the bugfixes > possible? > > Please ask to Google. Google AppEngine doesn't support 3.4 yet. On 6/17/2014 9:08 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > The simple answer is no. The longer answer is, if you want to propose a >> patch to backport the fix, it's more likely that somebody will do the >> work to commit it as support for 2.7 has been extended until 2020. >> Please note that I said "more likely", there's no guarantee given that >> Python relies so much on volunteers. >> > I got it. Thank you. > > The extended support is mostly focused on build (compiler) and security > (internet) issues, to support software already written and *working* on 2.7. > > That said, if someone were to modify the patch to it could be imported to > 2.7 (at least changing file names) or make changes to the relevant files by > hand; run the tests, with whatever changes are needed so that they do run; > and change the code as needed so all tests pass; sign the contributor > agreement; and post a properly formatted test to the tracker and indicate a > readiness to respond to comments; then it might get some attention. > > -- > Terry Jan Reedy > I'm sorry if I bothered you. I just want to know whether the existing bugfix will be backported or not. I should be more careful to post even a small question. -- regards, makoto kuwata --089e0149c6ae09d97d04fc2fdc1d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry, I failed to post reply:

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From:=C2=A0Makoto Kuwata=C2=A0<kwa@kuwata-lab.com>
Date: Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: Backport fix on #16611 t= o Python 2.7
To: Terry Reedy <tjr= eedy@udel.edu>

On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:31 PM= , Terry Reedy=C2=A0<tjreedy@udel.edu>=C2=A0wrote:

Do you have any plan to upgrade to 3.4, so you get *all* the= bugfixes possible?


Please as= k to Google. Google AppEngine doesn't support 3.4 yet.=C2=A0
=

On 6/17/2014 9:08 PM, Mark Lawrence wr= ote:
The simple answer is no. =C2=A0The longer answer is, if yo= u want to propose a
patch to backport the fix, it's more likely that somebody will do thework to commit it as support for 2.7 has been extended until 2020.
Ple= ase note that I said "more likely", there's no guarantee give= n that
Python relies so much on volunteers.

=
I got it. Thank you.

<= div>=C2=A0

The extended support is mostly focused on= build (compiler) and security (internet) issues, to support software alrea= dy written and *working* on 2.7.

That said, if someone were to modify the patch to it could be imported = to 2.7 (at least changing file names) or make changes to the relevant files= by hand; run the tests, with whatever changes are needed so that they do r= un; and change the code as needed so all tests pass; sign the contributor a= greement; and post a properly formatted test to the tracker and indicate a = readiness to respond to comments; then it might get some attention.

--=C2=A0
Terry Jan Reedy

I'm sorry if I bothered you. I just want to know whether the exis= ting bugfix will be backported or not.
I should be more careful t= o post even a small question.

--
regards,
makoto kuwata

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