Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: UNSURE 0.240 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.54; '*S*': 0.02; 'atom': 0.09; 'energy,': 0.09; 'sender:addr:gmail.com': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'comparing': 0.24; 'nearly': 0.26; 'certain': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'needed.': 0.30; 'technology.': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'to:name:python-list': 0.33; 'device': 0.34; 'something': 0.35; 'convert': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'generating': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'tell': 0.60; "you're": 0.61; 'times': 0.62; 'our': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'fuel': 0.68; 'subject:This': 0.74; 'flipping': 0.84; 'nuclear': 0.84; 'device.': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=W/yPgJERT9d/a9IPmH21r4TM+BOdI2v5GbLdH2ioGFQ=; b=FuOTJMEBR+HTtbXGVbknKENnwDrxnfpvxtU/ENByRi5LD0nZ9xrZUtxwVb+SdFuq9i kbbNF0XJql0dcefDH9ZIryKVAQwUN4dY3zkZ/aoS1o8EorI8fsIJayPEPRNIJKIgNxPR dvP60eeqdAdSAdLevCwgAgEMlFJrUDBUXkrO78HxBqXlmbGyQg3HeFFOL4kDuRkCXzXU T2xwvE2LTLDZTU+5KBD8YKX5NCs9sI0lPcOClaP9eyktJDO33jvZCrC/hqesVBA+9HD3 i1RljvcJKeIrrwDhrlfhNakQqm+BWjxbhg2Js3kRob5Kwd6d3LXs25RdNsMg7FnEwznc VVsw== X-Received: by 10.180.198.44 with SMTP id iz12mr217159wic.49.1402797150300; Sat, 14 Jun 2014 18:52:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <53990bad$0$29988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <201406081314.08285.gheskett@wdtv.com> <468344054423943680.832468sturla.molden-gmail.com@news.gmane.org> <53951178$0$29988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <4858ee10-6b22-4aba-b5c9-62b4f13080b0@googlegroups.com> <53953616$0$29988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <53957dfe$0$29988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1188a167-0b8d-43c5-ae24-d05ba8aaf899@googlegroups.com> <53990bad$0$29988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> From: Joshua Landau Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 02:51:49 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 10ZLBNLPXhx-jIft5-gfRmwZJFo Subject: Re: OT: This Swift thing To: python-list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 04:52:32 +0200 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1402800753 news.xs4all.nl 2845 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:51199 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:73284 On 12 June 2014 03:08, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > We know *much more* about generating energy from E = mc^2 than we know > about optimally flipping bits: our nuclear reactions convert something of > the order of 0.1% of their fuel to energy, that is, to get a certain > yield, we "merely" have to supply about a thousand times more fuel than > we theoretically needed. That's about a thousand times better than the > efficiency of current bit-flipping technology. You're comparing a one-use device to a trillion-use device. I think that's unfair. Tell me when you find an atom splitter that works a trillion times. Then tell me what it's efficiency is, because it's not nearly 0.1%.