Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!newsfeed.eweka.nl!eweka.nl!feeder3.eweka.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.097 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.81; '*S*': 0.00; 'sep': 0.09; '"this': 0.13; 'languages.': 0.15; 'assist.': 0.16; 'bugs,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'opposite': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'version.': 0.17; 'admin': 0.18; '(or': 0.18; 'appropriate': 0.20; 'versions': 0.20; 'python?': 0.20; 'received:209.85.214.174': 0.21; 'we,': 0.22; "i've": 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'am,': 0.27; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'chris': 0.28; 'run': 0.28; 'questions.': 0.29; 'really,': 0.29; 'search.': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; "we're": 0.30; 'worked': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'point': 0.31; 'help,': 0.32; 'could': 0.32; 'designs': 0.33; 'doubt': 0.33; 'him.': 0.33; 'programming,': 0.33; 'anyone': 0.33; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.33; 'another': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'list': 0.35; 'lists.': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'data.': 0.36; 'subject:Please': 0.36; 'level': 0.37; 'why': 0.37; 'rather': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'sure': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:209.85.214': 0.39; 'easily': 0.39; 'google': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'help': 0.40; 'end': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'places': 0.61; 'chance': 0.61; 'needs,': 0.62; 'assistance': 0.63; 'show': 0.63; 'here': 0.65; 'subject:One': 0.65; 'subject:. ': 0.66; 'day': 0.73; 'inform': 0.78; 'absolutely': 0.84; 'eventually,': 0.84; 'holes': 0.84; 'beings': 0.91; 'joomla': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=eWwcjUXKtK7O+UQSMAoY6+ow8SLPb4nuQsdte4Qd/EI=; b=JHY0nJkDz+oY3f6uCzCf1ECwh51jWCmgCIgUm1tlYYfRroS8USzjo+UsbSpdqC3qE6 cwkEfZ5jtjuq9VzmvpWGSOVfWMqPjWvK5PI3Yy5vbJEOFWrmAz2Lvf7A9/VdFIq1wFBp 4NPRg5CUE5GiCDSy/ZNGOs7orI2ZRY6RVMr8ro0lu1ntSJNKY9ZHj6sTnvzK2NlwlVcm gv6dj2gh6r/vjvZpktI/AbNPZY/PbViKV7B4FZpXwknHKr+Jo2cinZU7Dr8yvambUtcB KxiukaBDdWhDK8mZ4WanvaY4W0YEAebSrubFuj9IXRMvaIQkU8QdAbQl4NXNNbVHaWJM UB7Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <079f4b21-93f4-450b-9112-21b2faa19ed3@googlegroups.com> <505db890$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <73e59160-13b4-48c0-899f-53fc7517b21a@googlegroups.com> <505e8ada$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 15:38:35 +1000 Subject: Re: One of my joomla webpages has been hacked. Please help. From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 34 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1348378718 news.xs4all.nl 6913 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55972 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:29793 On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Dwight Hutto wrote: > On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 12:56 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> Steven's point is not that we, human beings (or parahuman beings, as >> the case may be), do not know how to run code in Joomla; I've worked >> with it, and know something about it, and my day job involves some PHP >> programming, so there's a reasonable chance that I could help him. > > Then a referral, is what he needs, and what you need is to tell others > you're a cross languaged programmer. Okay. I hereby inform you all that I am polyglot. I know many languages. But really, who here _isn't_? Is there anyone on this list who has absolutely no skills outside of Python? I rather doubt it. >> (If I cared to. I don't have very much sympathy for security holes in old >> versions of big frameworks.) > > SYmpathy, how about empathy, to show your designs can have bugs, which > is why they have version. > > Then refer him to the joomla security hole mailing list How about: Google is your friend? I'm sure that a Joomla security hole mailing list can easily be found at the opposite end of a web search. > We're the borg. We have google to help, or another mailing list with data. He has Google to help, and he can access other mailing lists. Anyone who wants to admin a web site ought to be able to find appropriate places to ask questions. There's a reasonable level of courtesy and assistance offered, but eventually, it's time to just say "This is off topic" and not try to assist. ChrisA