Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.albasani.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.118 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.78; '*S*': 0.01; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; '>in': 0.16; 'itself,': 0.16; 'message- id:@4ax.com': 0.16; 'proceeds': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; '(the': 0.22; 'url:home': 0.24; 'pass': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; "i'm": 0.30; 'too.': 0.31; 'usually': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'engines': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'back': 0.62; 'provide': 0.64; 'air': 0.66; 'smith': 0.68; 'subject:This': 0.74; 'article': 0.77; 'air.': 0.84; 'cars': 0.84; 'technically': 0.84; 'water,': 0.84; 'water.': 0.84; 'heat': 0.91; 'received:108': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: OT: This Swift thing Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:17:35 -0400 Organization: IISS Elusive Unicorn References: <201406081314.08285.gheskett@wdtv.com> <468344054423943680.832468sturla.molden-gmail.com@news.gmane.org> <53951178$0$29988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <53984cd2$0$29988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-108-79-218-122.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1402532266 news.xs4all.nl 2886 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55648 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:73192 On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 08:48:36 -0400, Roy Smith declaimed the following: >In article <53984cd2$0$29988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com>, > Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> Yes, technically water-cooled engines are cooled by air too. The engine >> heats a coolant (despite the name, usually not water these days) which >> then heats the air. > >Not water??? I'm not aware of any water-cooled engines which use >anything other than water. Well, OK, it's really a solution of ethylene >or propylene glycol in water, but the water is what does most of the >heat transfer. The glycol is just there to provide freezing point >depression and boiling point elevation. The point was that said coolant is, itself, cooled via an air/water heat exchanger (the radiator -- which in most cars proceeds to then pass the now-heated air back over the engine ) -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/