Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.012 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'tkinter': 0.07; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'meantime,': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'reasonably': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'tkinter.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'looked': 0.18; 'trying': 0.19; '(but': 0.19; 'stefan': 0.19; 'written': 0.21; 'command': 0.22; 'platforms': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'looks': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'code': 0.31; 'easier': 0.31; 'lines': 0.31; 'operations.': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'framework': 0.33; "i'd": 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'possible.': 0.35; 'done.': 0.35; 'objects': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'idle': 0.36; 'ram': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'implement': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'received:71': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'easy': 0.60; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'become': 0.64; 'subject:Design': 0.78; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'subject:good': 0.84; 'treats': 0.84; 'controller': 0.91; 'same,': 0.91; 'swing': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough? Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 17:26:35 -0400 References: <20140602175936.9341c3e8fb06c7e627ce559a@gmx.net> <87bnubtgcv.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <20140609225632.942a3e42d9b05f050acd1b1d@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-71-175-90-87.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1402522014 news.xs4all.nl 2842 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50971 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:73189 On 6/11/2014 2:27 PM, Stefan Ram wrote: > Mark Lawrence writes: >> IDLE is available on all platforms and is written in tkinter. But >> personally I'd rather use the command line :) > > In the meantime, I have learned that tkinter in fact has > become part of a standard Python implementations, and in > fact it looks easier to use than Swing (but I have only > looked at seven lines of Python-tkinter code so far). > > A naked-objects framework should be easy to implement > because AFAIK it treats all objects the same, so one does > only have to code a single View and Controller for a > =C2=BBgeneric object=C2=AB and some general utility operations. I though about trying naked-objects with tkinter and I think it should=20 be reasonably possible. I have too much else to do but would like to see = what could be done. --=20 Terry Jan Reedy