Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Antoon Pardon Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 12:30:23 +0200 Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <5792cd34$0$1587$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87vazwppxx.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <579B1ABB.1070500@rece.vub.ac.be> <579c2095$0$22142$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <579cbded$0$1605$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <758a1961-00bc-4b1c-834b-a7deca94d029@googlegroups.com> <57A0763F.7050809@rece.vub.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 9BycKHourYQojHH7K3MeYg+c/lNEPcBjbzOO9qbgXYwg== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.014 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:134': 0.05; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'absent': 0.09; 'beginners': 0.09; 'naturally': 0.09; 'subject:Why': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'subject:not': 0.11; 'received:ac.be': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:allow': 0.16; 'language': 0.19; 'java': 0.22; 'either.': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; "doesn't": 0.26; 'function': 0.28; 'print': 0.30; 'that.': 0.30; 'received:be': 0.30; 'problem': 0.33; '(for': 0.34; 'c++': 0.35; 'replaced': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'easy': 0.60; 'more': 0.63; 'stand': 0.67; 'teaching': 0.69; 'distinguish': 0.84; 'schreef': 0.84; 'notion': 0.91; 'baby': 0.95 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A2CnGQC6daBX/0YPuIZchGUBu1cBhhwCggABAQEBAQFehQYBBSNVEQsaAgUWCwICCQMCAQIBRRMIAogtsRWMGhqDTwEBCAIlgQGFKYRNgXqDEoI1gloBBJkzgWCNH4FVh3CFepAnVIISHIFOiQMBAQE X-IPAS-Result: A2CnGQC6daBX/0YPuIZchGUBu1cBhhwCggABAQEBAQFehQYBBSNVEQsaAgUWCwICCQMCAQIBRRMIAogtsRWMGhqDTwEBCAIlgQGFKYRNgXqDEoI1gloBBJkzgWCNH4FVh3CFepAnVIISHIFOiQMBAQE User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.8.0 In-Reply-To: <758a1961-00bc-4b1c-834b-a7deca94d029@googlegroups.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <57A0763F.7050809@rece.vub.ac.be> X-Mailman-Original-References: <5792cd34$0$1587$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87vazwppxx.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <579B1ABB.1070500@rece.vub.ac.be> <579c2095$0$22142$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <579cbded$0$1605$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <758a1961-00bc-4b1c-834b-a7deca94d029@googlegroups.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:112213 Op 30-07-16 om 18:15 schreef Rustom Mody: > > The more general baby that is significant is that beginners should have > it easy to distinguish procedure and function and python does not naturally aid that. print was something procedure-ish in python2 but the general notion being > absent is a much more significant problem (for beginners) than print. > > ... > > Ok Python is better than Java is better than C++ > But it cannot stand up to scheme as a teaching language > [The MIT Profs who replaced scheme by python admit to as much viz. But AFAIK scheme doesn't aid in distinguishing procedure from function either. -- Antoon.