Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Angelico Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: error with tkinter, help Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 05:08:39 +1000 Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <47977d70-6208-4e68-aca3-e1f63aacfac7@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de SpFaCmnKcl7ZwySh0m0wdwCY5+p7EBXq9a1HK8UPAFcg== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'puts': 0.07; 'x86': 0.07; 'subject:help': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'libraries.': 0.09; 'msi': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'itself.': 0.11; 'jan': 0.11; 'subject:error': 0.11; 'psf': 0.12; 'options.': 0.15; '"psf': 0.16; '"windows': 0.16; '2016': 0.16; 'enthought,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'helps!': 0.16; 'installer,': 0.16; 'places.': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'basically': 0.18; 'skip': 0.18; 'python?': 0.18; 'thanks.': 0.18; 'language': 0.19; 'foundation,': 0.20; 'windows': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'meant': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'third-party': 0.23; '(this': 0.24; 'downloaded': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'install': 0.25; 'installed': 0.26; 'helpful': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'opposed': 0.27; 'looks': 0.29; 'version,': 0.30; 'problem': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'point,': 0.33; 'url:downloads': 0.33; 'charge': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'python.org': 0.35; 'next': 0.35; 'replace': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'url:org': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; '(and': 0.36; 'others.': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'operating': 0.37; 'say': 0.37; 'done.': 0.37; 'received:209.85.213': 0.37; 'things': 0.38; 'received:209': 0.38; 'subject:with': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'software': 0.40; 'organization': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; 'hope': 0.61; 'default': 0.61; 'different': 0.63; 'times': 0.63; 'promise': 0.66; 'here': 0.66; 'talking': 0.67; 'guaranteed': 0.67; 'direct': 0.68; 'money': 0.71; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'prepackaged': 0.84; 'question!': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91; 'python.org,': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=kHA9JhcrK1kHRtW74t9mAv8eQ45xVgCgeSu/A5Ajejs=; b=mekVC1fQ91o4ViMttqBulNnmjb4CbgxttU4wlx8GLJffYXgA4uil+xRVq9jEJBuV3v mO7+SjJgKGB/DKTAD1iB58An3ThmhePhP5IH+9uqvRIcJsulMd93cQeJaDCxDML750I6 7doFsU9NxZaQvcU3VPwz1gaM4huaer5hzrMyl8D3e9owtBELeclK32J3HZ31DGwc7jds 7ZMfKw4qDvPCk7XzA8YOdx4TowppJgfb5sJXQ8Gk58oFy/Mf3ztEHBF3gebxj0YKj30W 9O3GFi+D/G6HP4G/SiOPG6wHkv2XzpckKOW4Bdui7Igotn8UmcEyiVt5Id1wcwu1c6tZ f9tw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=kHA9JhcrK1kHRtW74t9mAv8eQ45xVgCgeSu/A5Ajejs=; b=g8HkX2DKHLdCX/QJnnjUfPW4DLt+a9mMZcMaJlzDztEElc3eCzOFId4hifsVqHGehe H5dYm026z1c2ZzwhbpvSzzGT0eczaSVEr2qcr7Q9wdWt5lrxCd/4kt1dbP26kCX7NZvo N/ztLJ6wN+PkfQK0CapjB5rNUtmFJxO9eX47CcWrFP3IVybXP+9gbpdREjQN+XbDbhPg swtJBSMWCgHcE4G5I+87Bboe/vwUnMBz0SKOxKVw4QmA4kAS03eAVYRelQoyZbwiLC+W I9k/Ad7xazkYvLW7tXam7L7ltMfCjGPF0u+8uDxCrxQrLIC3lxQ+2TpFeL2xT8zxnvx7 ha+A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FXat76lSu+TJw/xioJJtGfgGgD/9/OJh4mRxBSou0pT5iFlbiktSwfap4NmINjxmbVVCTMfJrx6qgK1Xw== X-Received: by 10.50.123.132 with SMTP id ma4mr15605634igb.92.1460920119957; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 12:08:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <47977d70-6208-4e68-aca3-e1f63aacfac7@googlegroups.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:107191 On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 3:17 AM, BlueRidiculous wrote: >> How did you install Python? The Windows PSF installer from python.org >> will create this directory unless you uncheck the box to include tcl/tk. >> >> -- >> Terry Jan Reedy > > What is a PSF installer? Anyway, I installed the "Windows x86 MSI installer" from https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-344/ Is that correct? Yep, that answers the question! Thanks. For the TLDR version, skip to the next email now. If you're curious, this is what Terry meant by "PSF installer". Python is available from a number of places. The most simple and straight-forward installers come direct from the Python Software Foundation, and are downloaded from python.org, which is what you've done. You can also get prepackaged distributions from Enthought, ActiveState, Anaconda, and other redistributors. They may charge money for what they give you (this is legal, even with free software like the Python interpreter), and they can promise things that the PSF doesn't, such as support for old/obscure operating systems, guaranteed response times on support requests, or pre-included (and compatibility-guaranteed) third-party libraries. What's significant here is that your problem is with the *installer*, not with the language itself. When an organization repackages Python in some way, they may replace the installer with something that puts things in different places, or has different default options. It's not very helpful for us to say "Rerun the installer, go to this point, and tick this box" if you're actually using (say) Anaconda's installer and it all looks different! So Terry was basically clarifying that he was talking about the vanilla installer that you can get off python.org, as opposed to any of the others. Hope that helps! ChrisA