Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!newsfeed.eweka.nl!eweka.nl!feeder3.eweka.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; '21,': 0.07; 'strings.': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'other)': 0.09; 'pep': 0.09; 'language': 0.14; "(i'm": 0.16; 'advantage.': 0.16; 'curious.': 0.16; 'drafts': 0.16; 'fits': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'handling.': 0.16; 'happily': 0.16; 'hmm.': 0.16; 'notice;': 0.16; 'python-based': 0.16; 'sees': 0.16; 'wed,': 0.16; 'string': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'unicode': 0.17; 'sort': 0.21; "i'd": 0.22; "i've": 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'am,': 0.27; 'handling': 0.27; 'wonder': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'rest': 0.28; 'chris': 0.28; 'convince': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'maybe': 0.29; "we're": 0.30; 'knows': 0.30; 'folder': 0.30; 'switch': 0.32; 'yours,': 0.33; 'anyone': 0.33; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.33; 'everyone': 0.33; 'languages': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'nov': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; "didn't": 0.36; 'hours.': 0.37; 'rather': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mark': 0.38; 'delete': 0.38; 'several': 0.39; 'description': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'most': 0.61; 'world': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'our': 0.65; 'pleased': 0.66; 'absolutely': 0.84; "it'd": 0.84; 'joomla,': 0.84; 'adopting': 0.91; 'sitting': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=5nIbNTBOfGKbcmz/tgzS11kPNI9nCXmwrwAic8Rm/ys=; b=MbtHjLr22zUOGJAJe6L7E/3WrzBRtctx7kcQjjU+x1nBnC4CV4RJXRvmR0g6zCmIuW +A/Ncn++E/32iOHW1S5e8/EtpWfX8J31z/JTKLrduTD0JIedBXYvawza7j1ad5uMcNaT 6spJeCFI32eA+B2Upz2vFiTintCPbPB8j/VnS6DNZNqkITUUx4VbbzIb2ElVpJnMAye2 /ZeKofohSB+xPpgMAXkiu2t1vlC1mqW8Ly+wV27WbLfSEA7By9aUrSLUc6io7CwR167X FC+kWzQ0+Pcvlnfxxqp3h6mXjkk+o45YSdPF2NfQz93v9p/X9i9D15KiAOUP5/x89tqS Opmg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <31a82817-8c9b-4dd2-a468-89d8d081fd1b@googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:25:48 +1100 Subject: Re: Yet another Python textbook From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1353450357 news.xs4all.nl 6884 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57182 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:33676 On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 20/11/2012 21:00, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> >> To the OP: jmf has an unnatural hatred of Python 3.3 and PEP 393 >> strings. Take no notice; the rest of the world sees this as a huge >> advantage. Python is now in a VERY small group of languages (I'm aware >> of just one other) that have absolutely proper Unicode handling *and* >> efficient string handling. >> >> ChrisA >> > > Rather more polite than the response I've had sitting in my drafts folder > for several hours. I'm so pleased I didn't send it, I can now happily > delete it and move on :) Polite is good :) Incidentally, if anyone else knows of a language that fits the description above, I'd be most curious. Maybe we're going to see a revolution in language design - with everyone adopting this sort of string handling - or in language usage - with everyone adopting Python or Pike. Hmm. We're having major security issues with Joomla, I wonder how hard it'd be to convince our webmaster to switch to a Python-based web framework... Dreaming-ly yours, ChrisA