Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.albasani.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.051 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.90; '*S*': 0.00; 'english.': 0.04; 'anyway.': 0.05; 'url:au': 0.05; 'subject:Function': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'times,': 0.14; '(either': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'idea!': 0.16; 'language?': 0.16; 'personally,': 0.16; 'towns': 0.16; 'url:com_content': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'url:article': 0.19; 'later': 0.20; 'url:view': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'typical': 0.24; 'fairly': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'wonder': 0.29; 'words': 0.29; 'said,': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'work.': 0.31; '(which': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'quite': 0.32; 'could': 0.34; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; "i'll": 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'pm,': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'though,': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'establish': 0.61; 'success': 0.61; "you'll": 0.62; 'url:index': 0.63; 'story': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'difficulty': 0.68; 'sound': 0.68; 'url:v': 0.71; 'url:youtube': 0.71; 'url:watch': 0.77; '8bit%:46': 0.78; 'lighting': 0.84; 'us?': 0.84; 'url:php': 0.85; 'performers': 0.91; 'skip:\xc3 10': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92; 'have.': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=B+OrntlQU488oRFUELGehlkaf4F1HuqPfOiOpFfC0B8=; b=sRJBvMpeskQdU+taIh5L/QEhhEqRTgU83gqXItHrBBU1Bn25O6Y4OH9gShewus1BOw r9ValVHMNOHtcCg9NeV1SsXHDi+hJEzxnUsrzYDdPSYgff2lpCuZOFPg6pTVT2I9CLZ2 poHGcBmMu8ItCmkLHRxhNIYSk/2yrg10YHQpxfAxmD6UnklzZVvCnbHZQrvFzrGOsBOC NaGeUNIZkuXzgdUnZGNRGvKZN6qXh9JpCP9XQv0fs0iQpIzz57LotNt8Q4l0J5dh0beA uySLPPBoJHFjO6rLNrsOb7YW8wXDb+zf6dR6WvuXY5lfsrEIYYjDTKUWywWuKhdG8PFs JP9A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.237.199 with SMTP id ve7mr1190434vec.66.1402326491601; Mon, 09 Jun 2014 08:08:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5395b8b1$0$29988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <8b96ae27-20fa-4df9-807e-c806fed983c0@googlegroups.com> <38058e64-0113-457c-ae63-cc66e8b569cd@googlegroups.com> <8738ff2y4g.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53953912$0$29988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <874mzu1twi.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <539579d1$0$29988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5395b8b1$0$29988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 01:08:11 +1000 Subject: Re: Uniform Function Call Syntax (UFCS) From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 37 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1402326494 news.xs4all.nl 2914 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49328 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:73036 On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > In what language does "often" (\=CB=88o=CC=87-f=C9=99n, =C3=B7=CB=88o=CC= =87f-t=C9=99n\) sound like > "orphan" (\=CB=88o=CC=87r-f=C9=99n\)? > > ('oh-fan', 'ov-ten' or even 'off-ten' versus 'or-fen') Language? English. :) Your point is more about accent, and if you listen to some of the accents around the English countryside, you'll know there are quite a few of them (which is a plot point in My Fair Lady). Personally, I think the Midlands accents are rather delightful. I've spent a month at a time in Buxton (one of the highest-altitude towns in England) several times, always a pleasant time. But anyway. The story is set in Penzance, in Cornwall, and in the typical Cornish accent, the two words are fairly much alike. That said, though, some performers (either through sloppiness or for deliberate comic effect) do play around with that joke; but it's not hard to establish accents that make the joke work. > No wonder Gilbert and Sullivan had difficulty seeking success after HMS > Pinafore... > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0Y27MfF-n_Y Hmm, that's a good idea! I wonder whether we could use it... you know, same as so many other people already have. (Starship Pinafore productions are actually fairly common) Wonder what's in our calendar... ooh look, later on this year! http://gilbertandsullivan.org.au/index.php?option=3Dcom_content&view=3Darti= cle&id=3D670&Itemid=3D565 Anyone want to come and join us? I'll be up in the lighting box every night= . ChrisA