Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!xlned.com!feeder7.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.097 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.81; '*S*': 0.00; 'falls': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; "wouldn't": 0.14; 'amd': 0.16; 'chip': 0.16; 'now),': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'seconds.': 0.16; 'sink': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; "shouldn't": 0.24; '2005': 0.26; 'right.': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'quickly': 0.29; 'especially': 0.30; 'ball': 0.31; 'ago': 0.33; 'device': 0.34; '"the': 0.34; 'maybe': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'bad': 0.39; 'expensive': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'warm': 0.60; 'back': 0.62; 'exchange': 0.63; 'become': 0.64; 'taking': 0.65; 'cut': 0.74; 'subject:This': 0.74; 'power': 0.76; '"under': 0.84; '2014,': 0.84; 'ages': 0.84; 'difference.': 0.84; 'loses': 0.84; 'off,': 0.84; 'disturb': 0.91; 'heat': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Sturla Molden Subject: Re: OT: This Swift thing Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 23:34:05 +0000 (UTC) References: <201406081314.08285.gheskett@wdtv.com> <468344054423943680.832468sturla.molden-gmail.com@news.gmane.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 168-164-11.connect.netcom.no User-Agent: NewsTap/4.0.1 (iPad) X-: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1402270464 news.xs4all.nl 2959 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48279 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:72995 Chris Angelico wrote: >>> Kurdt: I wouldn't disturb the fan controller. >>> Kurdt: Ever seen an AMD without a fan? ;) >>> Leshrak: heh, yeah >>> Leshrak: actually. it's not a pretty smell >>> Kurdt: Especially when it's overclocked. It goes FZZZZT in under two seconds. >>> >>> I think that's about right. >> >> One would think that in 2014, a device called a "thermostat" would shut >> down the power before expensive equipent goes up in a ball of smoke. > > That exchange actually happened back in 2005 (wow! ages ago now), but > same difference. However, I think there are very few thermostats that > can cut the power quickly enough for an overclocked chip that loses > its heat sink. MAYBE if the heat sink is still on and the fan isn't, > but not if the hs falls off. "Under two seconds" might become "the > blink of an eye". If the heat sinks falls off, yes, that is really bad news... But if the fan fails the warm up shouldn't be that rapid. I thought we were taking about fan failure, not detached heat sink. Sturla