Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder7.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: UNSURE 0.277 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.45; '*S*': 0.01; 'tree': 0.05; "'python": 0.09; 'thats': 0.09; 'received:localdomain': 0.11; 'wrote': 0.14; 'random': 0.14; 'chip': 0.16; 'fail,': 0.16; 'failure.': 0.16; 'hint': 0.16; 'hits': 0.16; 'hypothetical': 0.16; 'macs': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'sink': 0.16; 'sink,': 0.16; 'warranty,': 0.16; 'warranty.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'replacing': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'cheers,': 0.24; 'looks': 0.24; '(or': 0.24; 'post': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'quickly': 0.29; 'statement': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'lines': 0.31; 'too.': 0.31; 'usually': 0.31; '350': 0.31; 'ball': 0.31; 'bunch': 0.31; 'controlled': 0.31; 'fans': 0.31; 'stuff': 0.32; 'weeks': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'quite': 0.32; 'running': 0.33; 'maybe': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'doing': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'turn': 0.37; 'received:76': 0.38; 'massive': 0.38; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'flow': 0.39; 'itself': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'engines': 0.60; 'tracking': 0.61; 'lost': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'card': 0.63; 'maximum': 0.63; 'box,': 0.64; 'face': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'cards': 0.65; 'air': 0.66; 'header:Reply-To:1': 0.67; 'book.': 0.68; 'optimized': 0.68; 'smith': 0.68; 'sunday': 0.68; 'subject': 0.69; 'integrated': 0.69; 'reply-to:no real name:2**0': 0.71; '4th': 0.74; 'chinese': 0.74; 'gotten': 0.74; 'subject:This': 0.74; 'article': 0.77; '165': 0.84; 'cent': 0.84; 'dilemma': 0.84; 'failures.': 0.84; 'fry': 0.84; 'shutdown': 0.84; 'try,': 0.84; 'volts': 0.84; 'old,': 0.85; 'carlos': 0.91; 'fascinating': 0.91; 'habit': 0.91; 'heat': 0.91; 'hot': 0.96 Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2014 18:56:07 +0100 From: Carlos Anselmo Dias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: OT: This Swift thing References: <201406081314.08285.gheskett@wdtv.com> In-Reply-To: <201406081314.08285.gheskett@wdtv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 08 Jun 2014 22:18:49 +0200 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: carlos@premium-sponsor.com List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 53 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1402258730 news.xs4all.nl 2873 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52557 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:72992 On 06/08/2014 06:14 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 08 June 2014 12:09:41 Roy Smith did opine > And Gene did reply: >> In article , >> >> Gene Heskett wrote: >>> You may want to reconsider that statement after the first fan failure >>> in your mini. We've had quite a few Mac's in the tv station, as >>> video servers, graphics composers, etc. The airflow for cooling in >>> them is controlled by baffles to get the maximum air flow past the >>> hot spots, but a fan failure usually cooks the whole thing. And at >>> that time, Macs warranty did not cover collateral damage from a fan >>> failure. Cooked cpu? Too bad, so sad. >> The CPU (or maybe I'm thinking of the video card?) in the Dell has some >> huge heat sink, a bunch of funky ductwork, and a dedicated fan. I >> suspect if that fan were to fail, the chip it's cooling would fry >> itself pretty quickly too. > Probably. I have lost several nvidia video cards over the years from fan > failures. My phenom in this box has a 75C shutdown that has not been > tested. Best fan & sink assembly I could buy at the time. And I have > gotten into the habit of replacing the 45 cent fans on the video card with > bigger, ball bearing fans at the first hint of a squall. A lot of this > stuff has more engineering time in assuring it will die 2 weeks out of > warranty, than in giving top performance. And that goes double for stuff > wearing an Antec label. I'm on the 4th psu in this box, its a $12.65 in > 10 packs 350 watter, Chinese of course, running 4 terrabyte drives and a > USB tree that looks like a weeping willow plus the original 2.1Mhz Phenom. > 165 watts IIRC. I run gkrellm and watch its voltages. Now about 3 years > old, the 5 volt line is still 5.08 volts. Whats not to like? The 2 > Antecs I was dumb enough to try, had 5 volt lines down to 4.75 volts and > doing random resets at the end of the 1 year warranty. Thats not an > excusable failure in my book. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett Reading this reminds me the hypothetical dilemma of (...) If one solution based in n dependencies(client apis) would need to optimize it's system(in dependencies too) to face the massive hits of search engines in the indexation of n millions of pages with tracking integrated at several levels(...) ... how would it be solved? ... It would turn at n volts(...) and it would need to decrease the voltage(...) This is somehow integrated in what I wrote in the post with the subject 'python team(...)' To put this working and optimized is really fascinating (...) Regards, Carlos