Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.014 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'else:': 0.03; 'finally:': 0.07; 'mind,': 0.09; 'try:': 0.09; 'clears': 0.16; 'default:': 0.16; 'foo()': 0.16; 'propagated': 0.16; 'sense:': 0.16; 'unexpected': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'seems': 0.21; '>>>': 0.22; 'example': 0.22; "i've": 0.25; 'this:': 0.26; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'am,': 0.29; 'raise': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'work.': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'this.': 0.32; 'could': 0.34; 'except': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'done': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'bad': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'ian': 0.60; 'finally': 0.65; 'note:': 0.66; 'default': 0.69; 'silently': 0.84; 'subject:try': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=AgHVjXR8Mq0Y9RdrvBnrYVfsPo6+7gXhzk0ykFBuN88=; b=GPKR7yk57oqg4pKFAZZ0Qe07EaGVe3o1+nXNMgeKPWHQ00jBGi4uicM3iUOrndkAQA qvgdV+adymHe98XL/1JoYd6TFvQccCo89wUP07HsnuAva1plHAVurIWcQ9r+jtDKuDH6 HlbuKKePYHTLDWNti5O9OuRGqA5Gg/W8INrsuuYNoMri36pfgVuw4/2QukHGh/N9qS77 w7qD96hN8S7s/Lb2oC+vOPO4xfX6qP142JXjp+DaKZdM4c/g0f6reDZ4iPheK2DwMVGc nSPD4D2PEsz/q3jbveZa9ClYnlyK9orEwj6W3A+jLZb6aN8/3Qq23pB1Th3kqYN81/XP hH8w== X-Received: by 10.236.185.167 with SMTP id u27mr205909yhm.128.1402250894421; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 11:08:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <0a89c96d-de62-42ad-be48-6107ce10d215@googlegroups.com> <539396F3.5090508@stoneleaf.us> <87lht73mdl.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> From: Ian Kelly Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 12:07:34 -0600 Subject: Re: try/except/finally To: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 44 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1402250903 news.xs4all.nl 2972 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:47707 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:72986 On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Joshua Landau wrote: >> On 8 June 2014 08:12, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone have an example motivating a return from finally? It seems >>> to me it would always be a bad idea as it silently clears all unexpected >>> exceptions. >> >> In a general sense: >> >> try: >> something_that_can_break() >> return foo() # before clean_up >> finally: >> clean_up() >> if default: >> return default() # after clean_up() >> >> What's the best replacement? Note: I've never done this. > > Why not just move the default out of the finally block? > > try: > something_that_can_break() > return foo() # before clean_up > finally: > clean_up() > if default: > return default() # after clean_up() Never mind, that doesn't work. But you could do this: try: something_that_can_break() return foo() # before clean_up except ExpectedException: if default: return default() # after clean_up() else: raise finally: clean_up() And then anything unexpected will be propagated instead of silenced.