Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder.news-service.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.01; 'bug': 0.02; 'python.': 0.04; 'irs': 0.04; 'cpython': 0.05; 'suppose': 0.05; 'received:localnet': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; 'lately': 0.09; 'naturally': 0.09; 'received:prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com': 0.09; 'tracker': 0.09; 'computing': 0.11; ';-)': 0.12; 'library': 0.15; 'desktops': 0.16; 'eleven': 0.16; 'fancy': 0.16; 'set;': 0.16; 'written': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'linux': 0.17; 'model,': 0.18; 'community,': 0.19; "haven't": 0.20; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'somewhere': 0.23; 'work,': 0.23; 'found,': 0.23; 'introductory': 0.23; 'worked': 0.23; 'there.': 0.24; 'code': 0.25; "i'm": 0.27; 'fact': 0.27; 'language.': 0.28; 'bit': 0.28; 'server': 0.29; 'software.': 0.29; "won't": 0.29; 'oop': 0.30; 'subject:some': 0.30; 'me?': 0.32; 'does': 0.32; 'anyone': 0.32; 'source': 0.33; 'it.': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'career': 0.34; 'on,': 0.34; "i'll": 0.34; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.34; 'quite': 0.34; 'project': 0.34; 'faq': 0.34; 'couple': 0.36; 'problems': 0.36; 'response': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'something': 0.37; 'open': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'programming.': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.39; 'help': 0.39; 'user': 0.39; "there's": 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'setup': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'more': 0.60; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.60; 'received:98': 0.61; 'header :Message-Id:1': 0.61; 'received:98.136': 0.62; 'back': 0.62; 'our': 0.63; 'link': 0.63; 'free': 0.63; 'constantly': 0.64; 'interest': 0.65; 'proud': 0.70; 'skill': 0.70; 'soon.': 0.71; 'anytime': 0.71; 'anything,': 0.73; 'texts': 0.73; 'home.': 0.76; 'agent.': 0.84; 'subject:experience': 0.84; 'financially,': 0.91; 'touched': 0.91; 'complexity': 0.93; 'retired': 0.93 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id; b=eX2J8QaWkN6uS197C22RFLBvoiywiDicpgm1CXKVEWHbDUOAWAuJYLjutHdAP1k+bW5YY+PUePp7LsiXk9ts9kPnhqUMMBNVhLhEK99g1YbxkiV/+YR1aVJrkXZrOgtk6LDvCUQFhCeXMBoxouMlNrcu1ZQsIoqS/Ozx22ShEyo= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1315947153; bh=zvfiyxURPdxIyWQeeY8Hlr4c43GDR1HQlqBQCGq0eJs=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id; b=XqVgcJt2F+9LnYlFfR21IZvSDIDy60rzEBB5zNJRWXdF8ox2pySRYjuYcDslUiH3+96TnDO5PRqHkpEur43u7QyM1JITduG8XO/exeGR770lYsqAngyxnqeDqzpfVf764G8u2ct6lcdXNo03hlJT2YSREtu9MEQAIppzHQK0Yms= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 1E.HJ.oVM1mlZgK8EAfVpDY56DWaV5Y7YiukqYbj66W4QTV IeAw87ivJHU94.JUQr9rwhxZuNaEAbf86TVt50FJbQua1Mu57iIak.Ot6Zrt YkZ9D0gcZtz4ls7.D8puU4Q_G3QnwLBCLkhTKuj.1Ma7BMvyIYD1iXk6Irbh r5P2y8uQIWxGvT9_ZW3EYFZ8veFPsb4hl9jpF1NPYkN3dovJP.JqKXigdDC3 fT98.hZe9stcZ4GHc65NHUd4dq7NDts4HFqmUNlxIMx012pQHpL1_UqGqMaY QggfBeJ1M070dkiV.8lusB0KysoMMOGAt6vyve8j1kMQxdQryg0PWvwmLKya z4UAp3weTA5Xoqden7p2VzYTeqxgEFyvNfiMw33XfVmmDKM39ON8wMMW4AS9 f14TDQefi6dSYqVlmtnJ3DOmlF80V X-Yahoo-SMTP: ciZ_JB2swBCwV1RbFb6pS8DGd4MO From: Tim Hanson To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Need some experience Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:52:24 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.32-33-generic; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <201109131325.06524.tjhanson@yahoo.com> <4E6FBEF1.5020404@jollybox.de> In-Reply-To: <4E6FBEF1.5020404@jollybox.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 43 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1315947557 news.xs4all.nl 2421 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58373 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:13244 On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 01:37:05 pm Thomas Jollans wrote: > On 13/09/11 22:25, Tim Hanson wrote: > > I have been a desktop Linux user for better than eleven years, as a > > hobby. Back when we still did most of our computing on desktops I even > > set up a rudimentary server setup in my home. Nothing fancy or > > anything, but I was proud of it and of the fact that it was built > > Microsoft free. I have no formal education in IT nor programming.=20 > > Retired now, my career was finance; I was an IRS field agent. > >=20 > > Since retiring two years ago, I have renewed my interest in software. I > > know some C and lately decided to learn Python. I have worked through a > > couple of the introductory texts and have a feeling for the OOP model, > > although I won't be able to call myself an experienced practitioner > > anytime soon. > >=20 > > I am looking for an open source project that will allow me to develop my > > skills further. > >=20 > > Financially, I'm set; I'm not looking for a job. I'm looking for some > > drudge work, where I can look at other peoples' code and make a > > contribution. Naturally I do not want to do this forever; I'm hoping to > > get up to speed with my skill set so I can work to more complexity > > later. > >=20 > > Does anyone have some ideas that would help me? >=20 > This is becoming something of an FAQ - I don't suppose there's a canned > response link somewhere ? ;-) >=20 > I like to recommend CPython itself =97 which is a bit hypocritical, as I > haven't touched it in quite a while. It has a constantly overflowing bug > tracker where I'm sure you can find a lot of fascinating problems that > need solving. The community, I have found, is welcoming and friendly. > Much of the standard library is written in Python, but if you know C, > you can have a go at the C code as well. >=20 > Thomas That's not a bad idea. From the past I know that bug fixing is a great way= to=20 learn a language. If you know a specific site to key in on, feel free to s= end=20 me there. Otherwise I'll poke around the Python site and find it.