Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.015 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'alain': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'suggest': 0.14; 'language.': 0.14; 'c/c++.': 0.16; 'it),': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'else,': 0.19; 'written': 0.21; '>>>': 0.22; 'issue.': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'java': 0.24; '---': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'code': 0.31; '>>>>': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'totally': 0.33; 'but': 0.35; 'wrong': 0.37; 'turn': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'heard': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'everybody': 0.60; 'liked': 0.60; 'free': 0.61; 'viruses': 0.61; 'protection': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'experience.': 0.67; 'antivirus': 0.68; 'evaluate': 0.72; 'subject:This': 0.74; 'life.': 0.83; 'manpower': 0.84; 'horror': 0.91; 'lucky': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: OT: This Swift thing Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2014 09:32:26 +0100 References: <87oay6nv07.fsf@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> <87zjhpm8q7.fsf@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-22-91-64.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 In-Reply-To: <87zjhpm8q7.fsf@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 140607-0, 07/06/2014), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1402129920 news.xs4all.nl 2853 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42588 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:72907 On 07/06/2014 09:20, Alain Ketterlin wrote: > Sturla Molden writes: > >> Alain Ketterlin wrote: >>> Sturla Molden writes: >>> >>>> Alain Ketterlin wrote: >>>> >>>>> Many of these students suggest Python as the >>>>> development language (they learned it and liked it), and the suggestion >>>>> is (almost) always rejected, in favor of Java or C# or C/C++. >>>> >>>> And it was almost always the wrong decision... >>> >>> I think they know better than you and me. >> >> Now it's my turn to say "oh, come on". Those who make these decisions have >> likely never written a line of code in their life. > > This totally contradicst my experience. I've heard horror stories like > everybody else, but I just have been lucky enough to work with people > that very seriously evaluate their engineering decisions. > > -- Alain. > Clearly manpower isn't an issue. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com