Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!bcyclone05.am1.xlned.com!bcyclone05.am1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'creighton': 0.09; "they've": 0.09; 'yeah,': 0.09; 'language,': 0.11; '>in': 0.16; 'from:addr:cs': 0.16; 'from:addr:zip.com.au': 0.16; 'from:name:cameron simpson': 0.16; 'illiteracy': 0.16; 'message-id:@cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'received:211.29': 0.16; 'received:211.29.132': 0.16; 'received:cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'received:homeip.net': 0.16; 'received:optusnet.com.au': 0.16; 'received:syd.optusnet.com.au': 0.16; 'simpson': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'else,': 0.18; 'laura': 0.18; 'shell': 0.18; '2015': 0.20; 'cheers,': 0.22; 'written': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'command': 0.26; '-0700,': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'too.': 0.30; 'somebody': 0.30; "i'd": 0.31; 'morning': 0.32; 'changed': 0.33; 'received:com.au': 0.33; 'tue,': 0.34; 'done': 0.35; 'quite': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'basic': 0.36; 'mode': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'really': 0.37; 'front': 0.38; 'end': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'cameron': 0.66; 'user,': 0.67; 'jul': 0.72; '***for': 0.84; 'waking': 0.84; 'subject:Gmail': 0.91 Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 10:45:14 +1000 From: Cameron Simpson To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Gmail eats Python MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <201507291632.t6TGWkvn031297@fido.openend.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) References: <201507291632.t6TGWkvn031297@fido.openend.se> X-Optus-CM-Score: 0 X-Optus-CM-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=XMDNMlVE c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=7VRakydLWw4CnqwyGz1TSg==:117 a=7VRakydLWw4CnqwyGz1TSg==:17 a=ZtCCktOnAAAA:8 a=PO7r1zJSAAAA:8 a=vrnE16BAAAAA:8 a=yEdEr6MRgwAA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=zOBTXjUuO1YA:10 a=zdkM-9sIgQ4b4xu1NCQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1438217128 news.xs4all.nl 2837 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45128 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl X-Received-Bytes: 4237 X-Received-Body-CRC: 1029487551 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:94758 On 29Jul2015 18:32, Laura Creighton wrote: >In a message of Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:35:15 -0700, Rustom Mody writes: >>- I should not have to customize emacs so that CTRL/A, CTRL/E, CTRL/N, and >>CTRL/P continue to work the way they've done since the mid-1970s. >> >>etc etc >>-------------------------------- >>ยน emacs 18 dates from around 1992 (!!) > >No, the original one was written in 1976. > >These control characters are the very basic move characters in emacs. >People have always been free to remap them if they want them to do >something else, but waking up in the morning and discovering that you >cannot move to the front of your current line, to the end ot it, one line >up and one line down because somebody has changed this ***for everybody*** >would get me quite upset, too. Yeah, I'd be annoyed too. I'm a vi user, but use the emacs mode for shell command line editing as it is modeless. ^A, ^E, ^P and ^N are really quite critical. >Laura (happy emacs user since 1979) Cheers, Cameron Simpson (happy vi user since 1985) English is a living language, but simple illiteracy is no basis for linguistic evolution. - Dwight MacDonald