Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.albasani.net!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.011 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'preferred.': 0.05; 'problem:': 0.07; 'python3': 0.07; 'source.': 0.07; '"c"': 0.09; 'derived': 0.09; 'executed': 0.09; 'def': 0.12; 'thread': 0.14; 'components.': 0.16; 'destructor.': 0.16; 'fingerprint:': 0.16; 'fruit': 0.16; 'garbage': 0.16; 'gpg': 0.16; 'intervening': 0.16; 'module': 0.19; 'stack': 0.19; 'example': 0.22; 'import': 0.22; 'id:': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'looks': 0.24; 'skip:" 30': 0.26; 'pass': 0.26; 'gets': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; "doesn't": 0.30; 'statement': 0.30; '(which': 0.31; 'code': 0.31; '13,': 0.31; 'routine': 0.31; 'trace': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'class': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; '(e.g.': 0.33; 'minimal': 0.33; 'skip:# 10': 0.33; 'skip:_ 10': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'case,': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'object,': 0.36; 'next': 0.36; 'method': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'easily': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'server': 0.38; 'whatever': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'issue': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'skip:t 30': 0.61; 'mentioned': 0.61; 'numbers': 0.61; 'skip:* 10': 0.61; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'places': 0.64; 'by:': 0.65; 'close': 0.67; 'obvious': 0.74; '_bootstrap': 0.84; 'flies': 0.84; 'self.run()': 0.84; 'encrypted': 0.91 From: Nikolaus Rath To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Missing stack frames? References: <87fvjlv22v.fsf@vostro.rath.org> <87oay8pobi.fsf@rath.org> <87r433ri00.fsf@handshake.de> Mail-Copies-To: never Mail-Followup-To: python-list@python.org Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 19:16:06 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87r433ri00.fsf@handshake.de> (dieter@handshake.de's message of "Thu, 05 Jun 2014 08:24:31 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 88 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1402020972 news.xs4all.nl 2854 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:41357 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:72809 dieter writes: [...] > Someone else already mentioned that the "close" call > can come from a destructor. Destructors can easily be called > at not obvious places (e.g. "s =3D C(); ... x =3D [s for s in ...]"; > in this example the list comprehension calls the "C" destructor > which is not obvious when one looks only locally). > The destructor calls often have intervening C code (which > one does not see). However, in your case, I do not see > why the "cgi" module should cause a destructor call of one > of your server components. Paul, dieter, you are my heroes. It was indeed an issue with a destructor. It turns out that the io.RawIOBase destructor calls self.close(). If the instance of a derived class is part of a reference cycle, it gets called on the next routine run of the garbage collector -- with the stack trace originating at whatever statement was last executed before the gc run. The following minimal example reproduces the problem: #!/usr/bin/env python3 import io import traceback import threading class Container: pass class InnocentVictim(io.RawIOBase): def close(self): print('close called in %s by:' % threading.current_thread().name) traceback.print_stack() def busywork(): numbers =3D [] for i in range(500): o =3D Container() o.l =3D numbers numbers.append(o) if i % 87 =3D=3D 0: numbers =3D [] l =3D [ InnocentVictim() ] l[0].cycle =3D l del l t =3D threading.Thread(target=3Dbusywork) t.start() t.join() If you run this, you could things like: close called in Thread-1 by: File "/usr/lib/python3.4/threading.py", line 888, in _bootstrap self._bootstrap_inner() File "/usr/lib/python3.4/threading.py", line 920, in _bootstrap_inner self.run() File "/usr/lib/python3.4/threading.py", line 868, in run self._target(*self._args, **self._kwargs) File "./test.py", line 18, in busywork o =3D Container() File "./test.py", line 13, in close traceback.print_stack() Ie, a method being called by a thread that doesn't have access to the object, and without any reference to the call in the source. I am left wondering: - Is there really a point in the RawIOBase destructor calling close? - Is there some way to make the call stack for destructors less confusing? =20=20=20=20 Best, -Nikolaus --=20 GPG encrypted emails preferred. Key id: 0xD113FCAC3C4E599F Fingerprint: ED31 791B 2C5C 1613 AF38 8B8A D113 FCAC 3C4E 599F =C2=BBTime flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a Banana.=C2= =AB