Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.unit0.net!newsfeed.eweka.nl!eweka.nl!feeder3.eweka.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:IDLE': 0.04; 'session.': 0.07; 'anymore.': 0.09; 'indicates': 0.09; 'prevents': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'jan': 0.11; '2.7': 0.13; "-n'": 0.16; 'alexander': 0.16; 'loopback': 0.16; 'meanwhile,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'run.': 0.16; 'subprocess': 0.16; 'version?': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'disabled': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'tried': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'command': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'interface': 0.29; 'blocking': 0.29; 'firewall': 0.29; 'occasionally': 0.29; 'work.': 0.30; 'help,': 0.32; 'problem': 0.33; 'usually': 0.33; 'idle': 0.33; 'option.': 0.33; 'running': 0.34; 'installing': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'cases': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'software': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'spam.': 0.61; 'details': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'personal': 0.63; 'python- list': 0.66; 'subject': 0.70; 'connection.': 0.76; 'saw': 0.77; 'firewalls': 0.84; 'os?': 0.84; 'seldom': 0.84; 'subject:GET': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: UNABLE TO GET IDLE TO RUN Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 00:19:42 -0400 References: <1501485483.555358.1445441061800.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1501485483.555358.1445441061800.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-59-124-74.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 In-Reply-To: <1501485483.555358.1445441061800.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1445573996 news.xs4all.nl 23777 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52388 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:97912 On 10/21/2015 11:24 AM, Terry Alexander via Python-list wrote: > I have tried installing both Python 2.7 and 3.5, and in both cases I > cannot get IDLE to work. I received the following message both times: What OS? Windows? which version? How did you start IDLE? Start menu=20 icon? Command line? > IDLE=E2=80=99s subprocess didn=E2=80=99t make connection.Either IDLE ca= n=E2=80=99t start a > subprocess or personal firewall software is blocking the connection. > > I am running Norton, and disabled it, but still IDLE will not run. Any > suggestions? Don't shout with ALL CAPS in the subject line. It usually indicates=20 spam. I already know that this problem is very frustrating. Firewalls are seldom the problems anymore. I occasionally saw this on=20 Win 7 when restarting, but never on startup, and never more than once or = twice in a session. What's left is misconfiguration of your network interface that prevents=20 a loopback connection. There might be answers on Stackoverflow that=20 would help, depending on your OS. In the meanwhile, you can start IDLE with the -n option. Either use a=20 command line or create an 'IDLE -n' icon. Again, details depend on=20 exact OS. --=20 Terry Jan Reedy