Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'url:faqs': 0.09; 'language.': 0.14; 'programmers,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'tool.': 0.16; 'url:catb': 0.16; 'welcomed': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'java': 0.24; '---': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; '(like': 0.30; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'but': 0.35; 'useful': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'effort': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'free': 0.61; 'viruses': 0.61; 'protection': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'antivirus': 0.68; 'yourself': 0.78; 'received:2': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: immutable vs mutable Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 09:23:46 +0100 References: <538E7531.2050108@stoneleaf.us> <538ea852$0$11109$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-2-98-205-183.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 In-Reply-To: <538ea852$0$11109$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 140603-1, 04/06/2014), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1401870306 news.xs4all.nl 2835 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43876 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:72617 On 04/06/2014 06:02, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 12:27:36 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> Want to be sure your questions are smart? Willing to put in a bit of >> effort to make yourself welcomed not just courteously, but >> enthusiastically? Check out this essay, one of the more famous ones: >> >> http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > I have found that (like much from Eric S Raymond) it's more idiosyncratic > and pretentious than a useful educational tool. Although this is aimed at > Java programmers, I think it is MUCH more accessible: > > http://sscce.org/ > +1 -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com