Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.109 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.78; '*S*': 0.00; 'advice.': 0.09; 'url:faqs': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'aquarium': 0.16; 'grasp': 0.16; "internet's": 0.16; 'unexpectedly': 0.16; 'url:catb': 0.16; 'wa,': 0.16; 'welcomed': 0.16; 'bit': 0.19; 'trying': 0.19; 'basically': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'either.': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'asking': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'especially': 0.30; 'probably': 0.32; 'everyone': 0.33; 'link.': 0.33; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'add': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'useful': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'effort': 0.37; 'step': 0.37; 'thank': 0.38; 'awesome': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'easy': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'free': 0.61; 'tips': 0.61; 'myself': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'afraid': 0.65; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'usa': 0.69; 'helping': 0.70; 'enjoy': 0.71; 'us,': 0.73; 'yourself': 0.78; 'topic,': 0.81; 'thoroughly': 0.91 DomainKey-Signature: q=dns; a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=inbox.com; s=s1; h=mime-version:date:message-id:from:subject:to:content-type; b=O9hB+bzFAyypIhLM154kC1XUazlTNrgG//6MEwScJqCWWnhCqnmfWegKcpGb3neS9v0v RwvekWtGPsInQPkxt83IisoUOpwH4VlUQLtkJpetHO+7jXx4XwQqtWNl80A+76N/50AdXR zkUO/f0Gu89CAjbUIBFoxpSlBb08kW++s= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; d=inbox.com; s=s1; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QK07ksNRESQ8qYHs0hJEFsym8rGgMADSXY/asWq0RZA=; b=c7pdmgnEvF+akTF7gtohCt+aWVhLHFfxet/hiK8MYzz5tsutxknsUioTVw/yxoPxDb8p zrhDUF8Y4wp24IT/dioOqoFMM+z5FZvl8UdwOyI33iRsoEMAtC1tsfBgaC1qF/PlshgkE7 jGT4+JEcmfYVzEOhvZ9Hi4abXUF3KVQ/4= Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 19:56:46 -0800 From: Deb Wyatt Subject: Re: immutable vs mutable To: Chris Angelico In-Reply-To: References: <538e7531.2050108@stoneleaf.us> X-Mailer: INBOX.COM X-Originating-IP: 98.247.209.87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-IWM-ACU: REl3BNnDDuo8xHixnf_X636zN0o4ehMXf2HTCd--OVG-6j9e2bHyP4t6JAKL GIOe14SmIJhHlQL92DlTJUHmlM-kMJLAqqRHOdR3zbccnGq0w9r2BYPsK51z zTG7MmBU979Spdr86kw@@ Cc: Python X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1401854215 news.xs4all.nl 2852 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50476 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:72585 >=20 >> And keep asking questions. >=20 > ... but this is definitely good advice. Want to get the most out of > your computer? Step one: Don't be afraid of it. Step two: Don't be > afraid of us, either. There's very little you can do on a computer > that's unexpectedly damaging, and it's easy to keep backups (tip: use > git/hg repositories and backups basically come =22for free=22); and we > don't bite, so keep on asking smart questions. >=20 > Want to be sure your questions are smart? Willing to put in a bit of > effort to make yourself welcomed not just courteously, but > enthusiastically? Check out this essay, one of the more famous ones: >=20 > http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html >=20 > There are tips in there that will help you to make those really > awesome threads that we all dive into and enjoy helping with. You > learn what you wanted to know (and probably lots more besides), we > enjoy a thoroughly discussed topic, and the list/newsgroup archives > add that bit more to the internet's corpus of useful knowledge. > Everyone wins=21 >=20 > ChrisA > -- > Thank you for this link. I will do my best to ask *smart* questions. I = struggle with explaining myself sometimes, especially when trying to grasp = something that baffles me. Deb in WA, USA ____________________________________________________________ FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on = your desktop=21 Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium