Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'syntax': 0.04; 'string.': 0.05; 'string': 0.09; 'yeah,': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'defined,': 0.16; 'down...': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'how,': 0.16; 'iteration': 0.16; 'iteration,': 0.16; 'means.': 0.16; 'sign.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; '(the': 0.22; 'example': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'class.': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'michael': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'character': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'page.': 0.31; 'calculated': 0.31; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'apple': 0.38; 'mapping': 0.38; 'url:library': 0.38; 'whatever': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'bad': 0.39; 'most': 0.60; 'length': 0.61; 'simply': 0.61; 'further': 0.61; 'more': 0.64; 'subject:This': 0.74; 'start.': 0.84; 'swift': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=WBL+Mbyfk68I9YctuEH15BcTt5GSLZBHEnDDavfXE4g=; b=jTDi1nSFKf29XU+G7Lqtce7NPK8bp8X8VVs9cFke+KabINcMItTDz6EFJUcKe8GYOP j60w9yM+SzQS1F0uxyfVN04biLuxgShWA73VNtsWNIQTsIlf6i4JZ9noCFLw1qb7GBdy Nz1XZSlRtpySJaNRLoy9e+w4oOV7AEpHyLC/SiVk406K7/vuP95XyCPWjPXsvn6ycmv/ 4aGwEqIZwmSMTNQoNXttHH4uK0TLOjUWI1fGWRzr8t//53jLj+TLjR4Ovf8FwRDLlsLu xiBJzkxSo/YZMG++zSaJr8Gqk8oHZ3HrRHqNbj0g7ppE3wMe7oW73XL6nIXB+/aEZE1+ F0dA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.116.1 with SMTP id js1mr14077908veb.29.1401848478693; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 19:21:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <538E7ABE.4060200@gmail.com> References: <34564700423508781.788278sturla.molden-gmail.com@news.gmane.org> <1685918893423520358.034637sturla.molden-gmail.com@news.gmane.org> <538E7ABE.4060200@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 12:21:18 +1000 Subject: Re: OT: This Swift thing From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1401848481 news.xs4all.nl 2843 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:51761 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:72576 On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Michael Torrie wrote: > A Swift string is simply a one-to-one mapping of the NSString class. > Apple claims it is "unicode compliant" whatever that means. > > https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/ios/documentation/Swift/Conceptual/Swift_Programming_Language/StringsAndCharacters.html Yeah, I was looking at the same page. Note how, further down, a syntax is given for non-BMP character entities (the same as Python's), and then a bit more down the page, iteration over a string is defined, with a non-BMP character in the example string. That's a good start. However, keep going down... and you find that the length of a string is calculated by iteration, which is a bad sign. I don't see anything about indexing, which is the most important part. ChrisA