Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subsequent': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; '---------': 0.07; 'indexing': 0.07; 'string': 0.09; '%s"': 0.09; 'delimited': 0.09; 'integers': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; '-tkc': 0.16; 'alexander': 0.16; 'centers,': 0.16; 'dashes': 0.16; 'each)': 0.16; 'from:addr:python.list': 0.16; 'from:addr:tim.thechases.com': 0.16; 'from:name:tim chase': 0.16; 'ideally,': 0.16; 'iterated': 0.16; 'iteration,': 0.16; 'iterator': 0.16; 'presume': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'underscores': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'discussion': 0.18; "python's": 0.19; 'examples': 0.20; 'import': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'headers': 0.24; 'mind.': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'looks': 0.24; '(or': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; '[1]': 0.29; 'characters': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'lines': 0.31; 'question:': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'critical': 0.32; 'beginning': 0.33; 'implemented': 0.33; 'actual': 0.34; 'skip:d 20': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'something': 0.35; 'operations': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'done,': 0.36; 'indexed': 0.36; 'sequence': 0.36; 'done': 0.36; 'doing': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'skip:- 20': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'mapping': 0.38; 'window': 0.38; 'files': 0.38; 'skip:- 10': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'either': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'length': 0.61; 'name': 0.63; 'field': 0.63; 'linked': 0.65; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'close': 0.67; 'production': 0.68; 'skip:r 30': 0.69; 'below.': 0.71; 'end.': 0.84; 'n):': 0.84; 'received:50.22': 0.84; 'theories': 0.84; 'subject:you': 0.87 Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 20:11:54 -0500 From: Tim Chase To: Chris Angelico Subject: Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - boston.accountservergroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tim.thechases.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: boston.accountservergroup.com: authenticated_id: tim@thechases.com Cc: "python-list@python.org" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 69 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1401844358 news.xs4all.nl 2882 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:51359 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:72566 On 2014-06-04 10:39, Chris Angelico wrote: > A current discussion regarding Python's Unicode support centres (or > centers, depending on how close you are to the cent[er]{2} of the > universe) around one critical question: Is string indexing common? > > Python strings can be indexed with integers to produce characters > (strings of length 1). They can also be iterated over from beginning > to end. Lots of operations can be built on either one of those two > primitives; the question is, how much can NOT be implemented > efficiently over iteration, and MUST use indexing? Theories are > great, but solid use-cases are better - ideally, examples from > actual production code (actual code optional). Many of my string-indexing uses revolve around a sliding window which can be done with itertools[1], though I often just roll it as something like n = 3 for i in range(1 + len(s) - n): do_something(s[i:i+n]) So that could be supplanted by the SO iterator linked below. The other use big case I have from production code involves a column-offset delimited file where the headers have a row of underscores under them delimiting the field widths, so it looks something like EmpID Name Cost Center --------- ------------------- ----------------------------- 314159 Longstocking, Pippi RJ45 265358 Davis, Miles JA22 979328 Bell, Alexander RJ15 I then take row 2 and use it to make a mapping of header-name to a slice-object for slicing the subsequent strings: import re r = re.compile('-+') # a sequence of 1+ dashes f = file("data.txt") headers = next(f) lines = next(f) header_map = dict(( headers[i.start():i.end()].strip().upper(), slice(i.start(), i.end()) ) for i in r.finditer(lines) ) for row in f: print("EmpID = %s" % row[header_map["EMPID"]].strip()) print("Name = %s" % row[header_map["NAME"]].strip()) # ... which I presume uses string indexing under the hood. Perhaps there's a better way of doing that, but it's what I currently use to process these large-ish files (largest max out at 10-20MB each) There might be other use-cases I've done, but those two leap to mind. -tkc [1] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6822725/rolling-or-sliding-window-iterator-in-python