Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.018 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'chose': 0.09; 'subject:None': 0.09; 'received:209.85.214.174': 0.13; 'received :mail-iw0-f174.google.com': 0.13; 'wrote:': 0.15; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'subject:design': 0.16; 'subject:versus': 0.16; 'pm,': 0.16; "wouldn't": 0.17; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'forms.': 0.23; 'subject: -- ': 0.25; 'somebody': 0.28; 'fri,': 0.28; 'received:209.85.214': 0.28; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'values': 0.31; 'value.': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.34; 'explicit': 0.35; 'which,': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.38; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'question,': 0.38; 'steven': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'missing': 0.40; 'received:209': 0.40; 'subjects': 0.67; 'researchers': 0.82; '"user': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=D2gv7UIlDs1iZurIauLmrqL0oKbPHc4OgjHTZewWOmQ=; b=tl+cJlIr6A0C7hBhREoFIbd6rHGyRuOoR0G3WaYxnvDGghG7s2oq2R63g8R3W0dZZL qCYa2KIxEZO9cR533fIZPt3wo8gRhejuPZUNx3e1Yu6H0uuFwrUF9/GLtpZOGlHJbgAo 2abOYylKqd+JPapKr7bm18A4r4Pq2DuNVpv9Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4e201a9d$0$29989$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <4e1fd009$0$29986$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <4e201a9d$0$29989$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 21:04:10 +1000 Subject: Re: None versus MISSING sentinel -- request for design feedback From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 11 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1310727853 news.xs4all.nl 23879 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50591 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:9537 On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > In general, you have missing values in statistics because somebody wouldn't > answer a question, and the Ethics Committee frowns on researchers torturing > their subjects to get information. They make you fill out forms. > Which, then, is in support of an explicit "User chose not to answer this question" MISSING value. ChrisA