Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'true,': 0.04; 'cpython': 0.05; 'plenty': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; '22,': 0.09; 'fork': 0.09; 'patches': 0.09; 'sep': 0.09; 'specified,': 0.09; 'subject:Does': 0.09; 'subject:command': 0.09; 'subject:python': 0.11; 'language': 0.14; 'sat,': 0.15; "'make": 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'happily': 0.16; 'release?': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'tend': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; '(or': 0.18; 'changes': 0.20; 'software.': 0.21; 'minor': 0.22; 'programming': 0.23; 'seems': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'am,': 0.27; 'language.': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'chris': 0.28; "d'aprano": 0.29; 'steven': 0.29; 'source': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'on,': 0.30; 'not.': 0.32; "aren't": 0.33; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.33; 'likely': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'whatever': 0.35; 'faster': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'why': 0.37; 'drop': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'things': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'build': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'easy': 0.60; 'between': 0.63; 'hang': 0.65; 'corporate': 0.71; 'subject:have': 0.79; 'actually,': 0.84; 'fortunately': 0.84; 'releases.': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=v67q3I2KosciOa+cppSrKbDkct16TiSVkzMqFjnjcvQ=; b=0+BzIA9cxYag/obWEzF/J1aU0RMBSej6DtT1VWXKKXr2IuxQuQ8Ilkd9TfU4WSrbBq XeZcijEh5pgivDg8hK37ypmn2L0eE/lKO5MkS5roPfigXCBdumOS4kONjTSkrqqaChZy pEG2KB32rkamOctPg648rhRxYEyc3FpLZ8GJkr750N0kBT+JA8M0auzvOrfY3Q4VyzvT 8VDj30MvvnRY1yNHnAfjaDS2Guh9KJxw6Ykngbg4AJGLCOJGYDVxBrygl1CqzQbGGKl+ SbTWF5J0ESWE42aWxzhezlTqqsIq/n7SMnGCg2BX9uya5TMeCIIgGLfrWOpIqQsgH5wq jvng== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <505d17a9$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <48ed7c38-966a-48d4-97aa-cf3b350ce39b@googlegroups.com> <832435ee-230c-49c2-916c-18e9f807a422@googlegroups.com> <505c8dc1$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <505d17a9$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:00:15 +1000 Subject: Re: Does python have built command for package skeleton creation? From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 34 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1348279217 news.xs4all.nl 6929 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37183 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:29712 On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 03:44:55 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Steven D'Aprano >> wrote: >>> For a programming language with a lot of corporate use, Python already >>> seems like it changes at the drop of a hat. >> >> Hang on, you're conflating the language and its implementation. > > No I'm not. CPython is the reference implementation of Python the > language. There is no ISO standard for Python (nor is there likely to be > any time soon) so Python the language is more-or-less what CPython the > implementation does. True, though not entirely; there are plenty of CPython behaviours that aren't strictly specified, and other Pythons don't have to comply. >> Fortunately it's >> pretty easy to whip up your own Python straight from source and 'make >> altinstall' to keep things happily parallel. You want faster releases? >> You got 'em. > > But not faster than =E2=89=8818 months between minor releases. Not unless= you > fork and do it yourself. Why wait for a release? Just build with whatever patches you want to build with. That's what I do with a lot of oddments of software. Well, actually, what I tend to do is simply build HEAD (or whatever hg calls it) as of when I want it, and update whenever I feel like it. :) ChrisA