Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder5.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.047 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.91; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'posted': 0.15; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'recognise': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'do.': 0.18; 'seems': 0.21; 'code,': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'posts': 0.26; 'post': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'tried': 0.27; 'moved': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'subject:some': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'figure': 0.32; 'summary': 0.32; 'actual': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'like,': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.38; 'short': 0.38; 'even': 0.60; 'read': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'expectations': 0.74; 'saw': 0.77; 'as:': 0.81; 'saying...': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=DBX+mHyZuDXOvHnUiPi2YzIkBoWdJn9D/6Piqi7xoyU=; b=I3OU3Mo3ASbfsYioIptLp8+RQlQI9bM6j4k3scBGlhYvsoccxzelYgBIgmc5o6CrwT kMaRCOWDP+cRf1JO9DHg/HWgduPGjgI6SvF+RCI3qG8Hw30Xb4WWfYmFBfCHiC14n/5q ePBbUkk/iUH1j6BQmpvhmW6whvE9jzDcqMo2XBdY9glRqaLzGZiARjyjU3gThgiT/P14 stko9i1lWtEAt9DRYfxW1E/R701aykXLhgV2aNvrtuYrDk48cZL+PdKiphmZkkR8m8jv DqSkoB7b+Vx9VrOq8jwXl8PE6H/27R4iBeGTUedukM4Jljow/oOaFjLlI+QhFj4MQYKU Gp1Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.164.237 with SMTP id yt13mr19297595vdb.18.1401590617821; Sat, 31 May 2014 19:43:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <538a8f48$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <538a8f48$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 12:43:37 +1000 Subject: Re: Python 3.2 has some deadly infection From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1401590627 news.xs4all.nl 2871 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37641 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:72356 On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > TL;DR: Anatoly's blog post is long on disappointment and short on actual > content. It feels to me that we could summarise his post as: > > I don't know what I want, I won't recognise it even if I saw > it, but Python 3 isn't it. I blame others for not living up > to my expectations for features I cannot describe and were > never promised. I think that summary is accurate. When Mark posted this last night (okay, it was last night for me, probably not for most of you), I tried to read the post and figure out what he was actually saying... and failed. Gave up on it and moved on. Got better things to do with my life... like, I dunno, actually writing code, which seems to be something that people who whine in blog posts don't do. ChrisA