Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Ben Finney Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 11:45:12 +1000 Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <5792cd34$0$1587$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87vazwppxx.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <20160723082947.7cae8bd1@imp> <87fur0a44p.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <20160723095441.29562c54@imp> <57939373$0$1586$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <85a8h6qymv.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de fBk4Z7Sxif5LJOnVv1kM5gqZQ4VZznItg8HrugvLsAVQ== Cancel-Lock: sha1:U3eey6hDwMu7lKRn1DQ+pLh4G/0= Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'proficient': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:Why': 0.09; 'threads.': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'subject:not': 0.11; 'suggest': 0.15; 'expects': 0.16; 'gregory': 0.16; 'intervening': 0.16; 'proportion': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:allow': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'language': 0.19; 'work,': 0.21; 'programming': 0.22; "python's": 0.23; 'tried': 0.24; 'examples': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'bugs': 0.27; 'coding': 0.27; 'compare': 0.27; 'correct,': 0.29; 'ago': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'probably': 0.31; 'problem': 0.33; "i'll": 0.33; 'done': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'wrong': 0.38; 'someone': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'caused': 0.61; 'more': 0.63; 'today.': 0.67; "today's": 0.69; 'design.': 0.72; 'gain': 0.82; '_o__)': 0.84; 'inherent': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'poorly': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <85a8h6qymv.fsf@benfinney.id.au> X-Mailman-Original-References: <5792cd34$0$1587$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87vazwppxx.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <20160723082947.7cae8bd1@imp> <87fur0a44p.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <20160723095441.29562c54@imp> <57939373$0$1586$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:111848 BartC writes: > On 25/07/2016 01:40, Gregory Ewing wrote: > > What's your experience? How often has this caused you trouble, and > > what proportion is it of all the Python programming you've done? > > I've done little Python coding Then you are not in a position to make the prnouncements about Python's effect on coding efficiency that you are pronouncing, in this and other threads. > I can give some more examples but I'll probably be told that I'm using > the wrong tools! You should gain a lot more experience using Python for productive work, before declaring any effects on productive work inherent to the language design. > Which suggest there is a problem Or that the programming tools of 25 years ago compare poorly to today's tools. Even tools that have existed for 25 years have benefited from the intervening time. No-one uses Emacs *as it was 25 years ago* and expects to be as proficient as someone using Emacs as it is today. -- \ “Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it | `\ correct, not tried it.” —Donald Knuth, 1977-03-29 | _o__) | Ben Finney