Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Angelico Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: turtle ?? Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 14:47:36 +1100 Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <5f23cad3-bda5-4c84-a241-c91c5dcb81ff@googlegroups.com> <56e00f1d$0$1600$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <56e0dfbd$0$22141$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de wkNtT5/KwR/ivuxB+EoWiwuSbFrIbR/teLQl2JDErbzw== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'mrab': 0.05; 'plenty': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'happen.': 0.09; 'thu,': 0.15; '2016': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'fyi,': 0.16; 'lowercase': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:turtle': 0.16; 'typo': 0.16; 'uppercase': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'typing': 0.18; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'keyboard': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'ease': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.24; 'example': 0.26; 'used,': 0.27; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; "i'm": 0.30; 'guess': 0.31; 'probably': 0.31; 'maybe': 0.33; 'getting': 0.33; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'though.': 0.33; 'true.': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'instead': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'anything': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'easily': 0.39; 'easy': 0.60; 'url:png': 0.64; 'mar': 0.65; 'benefit': 0.66; 'url:img': 0.72; '"i".': 0.84; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'turkish': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91; 'placement': 0.95 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-transfer-encoding; bh=avpdCmtd2pk8t7ArY9G7AJMt9oPU2WPKiMmvU3UMh1w=; b=rDMo7ce8u9c5BJgWlv++CSP/zYUGdueyiNsG7bf7QqkPzM/5vNTBX8YaeArGe74QNI S+hZosNKu/0oFCrjUYBVkbfFVpAalyJtWDCilYPHMAuFpKez7GwBnPWHu8R5PGfSoIR/ v+51FUngAd6TnIZj5HSAhHjrQx+n4Sd53C28kGDVvcGxd4LvnAXIMSiCEnePnNFhkI9p YlKRihwQZDY9l2i0XRTvxvqk/yOPURyF2dHdE502fRv+D8njNfCBmVecQI8qcP3pCFyX arcDDACLYw7gN4aRuZNG02HTpkl7rYhpIrUJ+LYZJpvaYUNpYjAEmu9CvS60Qagwdy02 AMiw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=avpdCmtd2pk8t7ArY9G7AJMt9oPU2WPKiMmvU3UMh1w=; b=fZgDqzbhIayTviRtowvt+fWcsJKtpwaXFaRB46xujoa/WkIWf/C/hXxkCpANQ2G7+J 1EQH4vhwWRpoBspK8gbvKzwbCqCcTCfxPXZZ5LNC+juWFhoUiab86tuRDB36QUim2F8B MsXW7DFlV4Df9xqP+gkzxajXcWdrbvv1j60oOIjsFIkpKEJDwEqHWseHX4gEWqnoGChA m4Pm44wLCTUBwnmEEdrPk5tP/wdVclRc0CPXTcAG7aYxiTaHiyZ8X/fqoVb71GrZ8bIt 8Bb8DUj2tjnD/wTPBUo4z4a7oAKlpMuO2XDVqnEabhpG+NKK6GrNum2YvlK0Mn29zm0C hIFA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLMlaGFcXLs/vRiB0vlg+at/d+QxdyogOjMgGqcR1xgRXRvJQPvUMgreaHzByoqjrMaHbLt+Ss8jr/4rQ== X-Received: by 10.107.47.163 with SMTP id v35mr1227287iov.19.1457581656910; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 19:47:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <56e0dfbd$0$22141$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:104471 On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrot= e: > On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 05:14 am, MRAB wrote: > >> FYI, the uppercase of "=C4=B1" is "I" and the lowercase of "=C4=B0" is "= i". > > Very true. Does that tell us anything about the placement and ease of > getting I on a Turkish keyboard? > > I'm just giving the OP the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they have a good > reason for typing l instead of I. Probably not though. A Turkish keyboard should have dotless and dotted, uppercase and lowercase, all easily typed. Here's one example layout (I've no idea how prevalent this is): http://ascii-table.com/img/keyboard-179.png But depending on the exact layout used, it might be very easy to typo I as l, and it may well not be noticed. My guess is that there's no good reason to mistype, but plenty of good reasons for mistyping to happen. :) ChrisA