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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Subject | Re: IDE for python |
| Date | 2014-05-30 18:27 +0100 |
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On 30/05/2014 18:07, Rustom Mody wrote: > On Friday, May 30, 2014 10:08:04 PM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> On 30/05/2014 17:15, Rustom Mody wrote: >>> On Friday, May 30, 2014 8:36:54 PM UTC+5:30, jmf wrote: >>> It is now about time that we stop taking ASCII seriously!! > >> This can't happen in the Python world until there is a sensible approach >> to unicode. Ah, but wait a minute, the ball was set rolling with Python >> 3.0. Then came PEP 393 and the Flexible String Representation in Python >> 3.3 and some strings came down in size by a factor of 75% and in most >> cases it was faster. Just what do some people want in life, jam on it? > > I dont see that these two are related¹ > > You are talking about the infrastructure needed for writing unicode apps. > The language need not have non-ASCII lexemes for that > > I am talking about something quite different. > Think for example of a German wanting to write "Gödel" > According to some conventions (s)he can write Goedel > But if that is forced just because of ASCII/US-104/what-have-u it would justifiably > cause irritation/offense. > > Likewise I am talking about the fact that x≠y is prettier than x != y.² > > In earlier times the former was not an option. > Today the latter is drawn from an effectively random subset of unicode > only for historical reasons and not anything technologically current. > > > ----------------------- > ¹ Ok very very distantly related maybe in the sense that since python is a > key part of modern linux system admin, and getting out of ASCII-jail needs > the infrastructure to work smoothly in the wider unicode world. > > ² And probably 100s of other such egs, some random sample of which I have listed: > http://blog.languager.org/2014/04/unicoded-python.html > I just happen to like fishing :) -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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IDE for python Sameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 03:43 -0700
Re: IDE for python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-28 13:50 +0300
Re: IDE for python Greg Schroeder <gmschroeder@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 18:46 +0700
Re: IDE for python Sameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 05:56 -0700
Re: IDE for python Sameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 06:01 -0700
Re: IDE for python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-28 15:36 +0100
Re: IDE for python Duncan Booth <duncan.booth@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-29 08:09 +0000
Re: IDE for python Duncan Booth <duncan.booth@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-29 08:32 +0000
Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 22:55 +1000
Re: IDE for python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-28 08:38 -0700
Re: IDE for python Wolfgang Maier <wolfgang.maier@biologie.uni-freiburg.de> - 2014-06-02 07:28 +0000
Re: IDE for python Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2014-06-02 09:15 +0100
Re: IDE for python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-06-02 10:02 +0100
Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 19:15 +1000
Re: IDE for python Wolfgang Maier <wolfgang.maier@biologie.uni-freiburg.de> - 2014-06-02 10:10 +0000
Re: IDE for python Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2014-06-02 11:43 +0100
Re: IDE for python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-06-02 13:11 +0100
Re: IDE for python Greg Schroeder <gmschroeder@gmail.com> - 2014-05-29 08:13 +0700
Programmer's text editor, for Python and everything else (was: IDE for python) Ben Finney <ben@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-05-29 12:51 +1000
答复: IDE for python "cheng.li" <scrappedprince.li@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 18:51 +0800
Re: IDE for python alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-28 11:03 +0000
Re: IDE for python Mihamina Rakotomandimby <mihamina.rakotomandimby@rktmb.org> - 2014-05-28 13:51 +0300
Re: IDE for python Sameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 04:31 -0700
Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 22:00 +1000
Re: IDE for python "prashanth B.G" <prash.bg@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 17:41 +0530
Re: IDE for python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-28 13:35 +0100
Re: IDE for python Sameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 06:27 -0700
Re: IDE for python Joseph Martinot-Lagarde <joseph.martinot-lagarde@m4x.org> - 2014-06-04 02:12 +0200
Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 21:33 +1000
Re: IDE for python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-05-28 13:04 +0000
Re: IDE for python "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk> - 2014-05-29 00:12 +0100
Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-29 18:02 +1000
Re: IDE for python William Ray Wing <wrw@mac.com> - 2014-05-28 08:47 -0400
Re: IDE for python Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 09:25 -0500
Re: IDE for python Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2014-05-28 18:24 +0200
Re: IDE for python "Ernest Bonat, Ph.D." <ernest.bonat@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 10:24 -0700
Re: IDE for python Deb Wyatt <codemonkey@inbox.com> - 2014-05-28 09:39 -0800
Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 12:10 -0700
Re: IDE for python Ben Finney <ben@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-05-29 08:13 +1000
Re: IDE for python Wolfgang Maier <wolfgang.maier@biologie.uni-freiburg.de> - 2014-05-29 11:41 +0200
Re: IDE for python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-05-29 12:39 -0400
Re: IDE for python Paul Rudin <paul.nospam@rudin.co.uk> - 2014-05-29 17:44 +0100
Re: IDE for python Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-05-29 15:11 -0500
Re: IDE for python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-29 21:41 +0100
Re: IDE for python alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-30 12:23 +0000
Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 05:53 -0700
Re: IDE for python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-30 16:54 +0300
Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 07:04 -0700
Re: IDE for python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-30 08:06 -0700
Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 09:15 -0700
Re: IDE for python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-05-30 12:37 -0400
Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 09:40 -0700
Re: IDE for python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-30 17:38 +0100
Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 10:07 -0700
Re: IDE for python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-30 18:27 +0100
Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-31 18:48 -0700
Re: IDE for python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-06-01 00:38 -0700
Re: IDE for python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-01 10:58 +0300
Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 18:31 +1000
Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 01:52 -0700
Re: IDE for python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-06-01 09:06 +0000
Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 19:59 +1000
Re: IDE for python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-31 01:46 -0700
Re: IDE for python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-30 10:17 -0700
Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 10:30 -0700
Re: IDE for python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-30 11:43 -0700
Re: IDE for python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-05-30 11:46 -0400
Re: IDE for python "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk> - 2014-06-01 00:17 +0100
Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 02:51 +1000
Re: IDE for python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-05-29 16:45 -0400
Re: IDE for python Ben Finney <ben@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-05-30 07:05 +1000
Re: IDE for python Travis Griggs <travisgriggs@gmail.com> - 2014-05-29 15:40 -0700
Re: IDE for python Andrea D'Amore <anddamNOALPASTICCIODICARNE+gruppi@brapi.net> - 2014-05-30 09:21 +0200
Re: IDE for python Andrea D'Amore <anddamNOALPASTICCIODICARNE+gruppi@brapi.net> - 2014-05-30 11:04 +0200
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