Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'operator': 0.03; 'python3': 0.07; 'friday,': 0.09; 'modulo': 0.09; 'operator,': 0.09; 'statements': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python- list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'question.': 0.14; "','": 0.16; "';'": 0.16; "'from": 0.16; 'at.': 0.16; 'command.': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'newlines': 0.16; 'notation': 0.16; 'semicolon': 0.16; 'ternary': 0.16; 'url:debian': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; "python's": 0.19; 'version.': 0.19; 'import': 0.22; 'putting': 0.22; 'rules': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'certainly': 0.24; 'convenient': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'asking': 0.27; 'certain': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'chris': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'lines': 0.31; 'url:05': 0.31; 'fri,': 0.33; 'not.': 0.33; 'programmers': 0.33; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'opposed': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'list': 0.37; 'pm,': 0.38; 'most': 0.60; "you're": 0.61; 'more': 0.64; '30,': 0.65; 'dont': 0.67; '100': 0.79; 'crafted': 0.84; 'line!': 0.84; 'saying:': 0.84; 'subject:commands': 0.84; 'url:2014': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=/wPUkC28aIgoJrRJ8yTPwt82Jbr2Y0cOUmyxyTAmAjM=; b=DOvaKzvHWGcAHP2cp8KV7zO5ii/tKNXTUnIumfiru5wkZzGYfKLBVcgQclKDBCpw3i jbJfSXx7oAqXfYuMKsOsrNzBF4jZxwalCy5k7+ZuAvlTiLdlzoXG0CXk1VHmPdFzh+lm L8CDDw3VEvjREPQCOu0i/BwSSD63tQpliCKCAhay2K0k12N3nljcZSB1sSGiNjk+mNgw YQH2zRfey7H17nb4HnP93vKlbQ+du8AER4mkvCI6nUedApEeOUREUXhmQCZKAP3QpPQT +gpNvQ+dZaBbuFn+ZHSmB8aqZ18kgYdxPsUz9XhgwWzog7yahO57X84jdkFkpWZtSx6q 2uhQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.167.132 with SMTP id zo4mr217497vdb.97.1401454698170; Fri, 30 May 2014 05:58:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <25135194-b9cb-4942-bead-c1bdf72923ee@googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 22:58:18 +1000 Subject: Re: Multi-line commands with 'python -c' From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 37 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1401454700 news.xs4all.nl 2854 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54493 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:72297 On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: > On Friday, May 30, 2014 12:50:31 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: >> > I thought when one signs up for python one has to sign an affidavit >> > saying: >> > "I shall not write one-liners\n" * 100 > >> Certainly not. I write all my list comps on one line! > >> *ducking for cover* > > Heres a more vile misuse of python3's print-as-function + list-comp-as-for: > > python3 -c 'from os import walk; [print(r) for r, d, f in walk(".") if len(d+f) == 1]' > > Well if C programmers can use ',' as one-line ';' and '?:' as one-line if > why not python also? > > [To noobs who are reading: Dont do this!] I actually crafted the exact same vile misuse, prior to asking the question. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/05/msg02019.html Modulo trivialities like whitespace and the from-import, it's exactly the same as your version. Incidentally, C's ?: operator maps to Python's ternary if/else operator, which most definitely is valid in a one-liner. So it's just the semicolon that you're looking at. In C, you can combine any two statements onto one line; in Python, certain statements may not follow a semicolon. So it's not really ; and ?: that are the point here, but that Python, with its stricter rules about newlines (as opposed to "any whitespace"), doesn't seem to have a convenient notation for putting multiple lines into a -c command. ChrisA