Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.010 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'elegant,': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'language.': 0.14; 'choice,': 0.16; 'eclipse': 0.16; 'idle.': 0.16; 'porting': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'simplified': 0.16; 'url:peps': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'pointed': 0.19; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'features,': 0.24; 'simpler': 0.24; 'url:dev': 0.24; 'java': 0.24; '---': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'adequate': 0.31; 'there.': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; "i'd": 0.34; 'really': 0.36; 'explains': 0.36; 'idle': 0.36; 'useful': 0.36; 'thanks': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'changing': 0.37; 'improving': 0.38; 'stable': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'users': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'free': 0.61; 'ago,': 0.61; 'black': 0.61; 'eye': 0.61; 'helps': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; 'viruses': 0.61; 'simple': 0.61; 'protection': 0.63; 'today': 0.64; 'our': 0.64; 'great': 0.65; 'world': 0.66; 'antivirus': 0.68; 'co.': 0.74; 'received:2': 0.84; 'understand,': 0.84; 'novice': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: IDE for python Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 21:41:29 +0100 References: <8761kozg98.fsf@rudin.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-2-98-205-170.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 140529-0, 29/05/2014), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 34 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1401396094 news.xs4all.nl 2968 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53925 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:72252 On 29/05/2014 21:11, Mark H Harris wrote: > The OP is looking for an "IDE-like" interactive environment, because he > is "uncomfortable" with IDLE. IDLE is THE choice, however ---precisely > because IDLE is clean, elegant, and most importantly "simple". It is > simple to understand, and it is even simpler to use effectively... even > for novice pythonics. IDLE is straight-forward. > > As Terry pointed out, IDLE is very useful and functional. And in the > modern python world is also very stable (IDLE used to get a black eye > because it had snags early-on). Today IDLE works, has great features, > and actually helps new users get on-board with Python. > > marcus > I'll point out (again?) that IDLE is improving all the time thanks to Terry & Co. This explains why http://legacy.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0434/ Strangely I've been using Eclipse and Pydev since porting Java to Python some time ago, it really simplified the process. However I'd been thinking of changing and picked IDLE because it's there. Perfectly adequate for my current needs. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com