Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.029 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'feature,': 0.09; 'interpreted': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'language,': 0.12; '12:50': 0.16; 'fly': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '(but': 0.19; "python's": 0.19; 'machine': 0.22; 'code,': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'compilation': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'compiled': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'feature': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'there.': 0.32; 'fri,': 0.33; "i'd": 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'ahead': 0.38; 'extremely': 0.39; 'then,': 0.60; 'effective': 0.61; 'making': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'different': 0.65; '30,': 0.65; 'consequences': 0.74; 'ridiculously': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=OF2IYsDeY31fFbFrkBwZ4uXPetKqZKMipulEEPu+c4Q=; b=v/ZxnRlO/48mdPULwpjgXAG66MC9Mkzqfc7MKC9lryFOVkZIhp0d3288ORHadPGxz8 tPHKUxpugkH+LpydG2fxmkaHTh1FRLhhpsd+KrYSgEz+tdxfb0hq/DMOIaskPH8W/1YX N4VX7oAGYvng9AypMe63B/YjISsC5qpMV1xPPaBqHwjZBj6F6yF3qr5tnINt7IDpRSnt uPBhY5sr1+FiPlQ7QzDGPSaSe7npo3637oHC7cMIp3rabqGghbQ14kBjoh7bdyMPjodB tzTTQdJd7jIMZC3nut8CyzHDqkQ0A68blQH5hMWUMkeQVuJ+ZOaX/QvWQb+L3EaVK5tP NK+A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.74.164 with SMTP id u4mr1173381vev.81.1401375516860; Thu, 29 May 2014 07:58:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87mwe0zlk7.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> References: <87tx91warf.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <871tvxtwgj.fsf@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> <8761l9pi3n.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <5387437f$0$4935$e4fe514c@dreader35.news.xs4all.nl> <87mwe0zlk7.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 00:58:36 +1000 Subject: Re: Fortran From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1401375519 news.xs4all.nl 2853 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49348 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:72240 On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 12:50 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Python code, too, is compiled into interpreted bytecode. Again, you > could compile it into machine code ahead of execution or perform the > compilation on the fly with JIT techniques. However, Python is so > ridiculously dynamic that such compilers have an extremely difficult > time making effective optimizations. I'd avoid the word "ridiculously" there. Python's dynamism is a feature, not a flaw. It's a feature with consequences (but then, what isn't), and if you don't want it, use a different language, but it's not ridiculous. ChrisA